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> Once the startup bros say a site is good for "native marketing", that's when the begins to die. That's a good point. Though it certainly isn't the case for I

> Once the startup bros say a site is good for "native marketing", that's when the begins to die. That's a good point. Though it certainly isn't the case for Instagram...

erichurkman 8y ago
Instagram is good for marketing visual products and ideas. It's visual discovery. Quora pushed a blend between Yahoo! Answers and Wikipedia. It was text-based discovery. I do miss the well-researched, cited, frequently updated answers of yesteryear.
- halfjew22 8y ago
  Copy and paste from comment above. Knophy.com is going to have no ads and is going to promote the usage of competency and evidence of content. More details will be posted on SHOWHN in about 3 - 4 weeks when I can get my prototype live. >It's very exciting to see your feedback on Quora. I'm working on a prototype for my website, knophy.com, that is going to revolve completely around promoting those with competency. On the Internet, there is too much value and emphasis on QUICK bangs of interest, while the real value can lie much more comfortably in long for interaction, much like a conversation in person. I'm not going to give too many details now, but I look forward to hopefully having you guys give the prototype a trial once it's ready. I estimate that will be in about 3 - 4 weeks. knophy.com is currently live, but it's really just there because I'm developing all of this out in the open. I'm also working on radically changing how we think about business structures and actually incorporating the idea of demonstrated competencies into how the board is going to function. If you'd like to check out the repo, it's here: http://github.com/technoplato/knophy http://github.com/technoplato/knophy
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josteink 8y ago
I dunno. I’ve noticed my feed now contains more and more ads. And posts out of order. And posts on repeat. It’s clearly no longer the simple service which simply shows me the latest images posted by those I follow. It’s now a site I can tell is trying to game me, and that’s such a turn off. Facebook had that moment where they crossed a line and that was when I stopped posting. Instagram too is getting close. They shouldn’t push their luck.
- astura 8y ago
  Funny thing is a lot of those ads aren't even paid for, wannabe influencers post ads now to make themselves look like they are being paid to post ads, to eventually get paid to post ads. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/influencers-are-faking-brand-deals/578401/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/influ...
  - james_s_tayler 8y ago
    lolll I never thought about that but damn. Yeah, makes sense. Life is almost comical.
  - msaharia 8y ago
    Wow. This is madness on a whole different level. I hadn't thought of this angle.
  - hopler 8y ago
    Next up: advertisers making deals with wannabe influencers to post ads for free, to give the influencer "exposure" to help them get paying ad deals in the future. The usual art business climate.
paulgb 8y ago
But it does seem to be true of the Instagram "discover" feature.
darpa_escapee 8y ago
> Though it certainly isn't the case for Instagram... Maybe it's because I've work with people in this space, but I'm convinced 60% of Instagram activity is generated by bots. Give it time.

> Once the startup bros say a site is good for "native marketing", that's when the begins to die. That's a good point. Though it certainly isn't the case for Instagram...

erichurkman 8y ago

Instagram is good for marketing visual products and ideas. It's visual discovery. Quora pushed a blend between Yahoo! Answers and Wikipedia. It was text-based discovery. I do miss the well-researched, cited, frequently updated answers of yesteryear.

halfjew22 8y ago
Copy and paste from comment above. Knophy.com is going to have no ads and is going to promote the usage of competency and evidence of content. More details will be posted on SHOWHN in about 3 - 4 weeks when I can get my prototype live. >It's very exciting to see your feedback on Quora. I'm working on a prototype for my website, knophy.com, that is going to revolve completely around promoting those with competency. On the Internet, there is too much value and emphasis on QUICK bangs of interest, while the real value can lie much more comfortably in long for interaction, much like a conversation in person. I'm not going to give too many details now, but I look forward to hopefully having you guys give the prototype a trial once it's ready. I estimate that will be in about 3 - 4 weeks. knophy.com is currently live, but it's really just there because I'm developing all of this out in the open. I'm also working on radically changing how we think about business structures and actually incorporating the idea of demonstrated competencies into how the board is going to function. If you'd like to check out the repo, it's here: http://github.com/technoplato/knophy http://github.com/technoplato/knophy
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josteink 8y ago

I dunno. I’ve noticed my feed now contains more and more ads. And posts out of order. And posts on repeat. It’s clearly no longer the simple service which simply shows me the latest images posted by those I follow. It’s now a site I can tell is trying to game me, and that’s such a turn off. Facebook had that moment where they crossed a line and that was when I stopped posting. Instagram too is getting close. They shouldn’t push their luck.

astura 8y ago
Funny thing is a lot of those ads aren't even paid for, wannabe influencers post ads now to make themselves look like they are being paid to post ads, to eventually get paid to post ads. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/influencers-are-faking-brand-deals/578401/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/12/influ...
- james_s_tayler 8y ago
  lolll I never thought about that but damn. Yeah, makes sense. Life is almost comical.
- msaharia 8y ago
  Wow. This is madness on a whole different level. I hadn't thought of this angle.
- hopler 8y ago
  Next up: advertisers making deals with wannabe influencers to post ads for free, to give the influencer "exposure" to help them get paying ad deals in the future. The usual art business climate.

paulgb 8y ago

But it does seem to be true of the Instagram "discover" feature.

darpa_escapee 8y ago

> Though it certainly isn't the case for Instagram... Maybe it's because I've work with people in this space, but I'm convinced 60% of Instagram activity is generated by bots. Give it time.