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I've no intent on defending Goldman but taibbi is an idealogue not a journalist. He belongs in a commentary page not given credit as a journalist
by robk 8y ago
I've no intent on defending Goldman but taibbi is an idealogue not a journalist. He belongs in a commentary page not given credit as a journalist
- rayiner 8y agoAlso a piece of trash human: https://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2017/10/27/twenty-years-ago-in-moscow-matt-taibbi-was-a-misogynist-asshole-and-possibly-worse https://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2017/10/27/tw...
- AndyMcConachie 8y agoThey wrote that as fiction. https://twitter.com/onlxn/status/923966695554785280/photo/1 https://twitter.com/onlxn/status/923966695554785280/photo/1
- tptacek 8y agoOr, to paraphrase the tweet you're citing more accurately, they wrote it "as fiction".
- anigbrowl 8y ago'I was obviously joking' is the go-to defense of people who are acutely embarrassed. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen that excuse trotted out. As I always say when someone tries this in person 'if only one of us is laughing it wasn't a joke.'
- coolgeek 8y ago> 'I was obviously joking' That's not at all reflective of the cited text. First off, he never even implied 'obvious' - which is used to blame the reader/listener for not getting it. Second, while he does refer to his view of the material (at the time) as satire, his current view (at least in the cited text) is clearly, and solely, regret.
- sincerely 8y agoI'm sorry, this is ridiculous, both in terms of misrepresenting Taibbi's statement and in terms of a general attitude. It's a joke if a statement doesn't actually represent your beliefs. That has nothing to do with whether other people find it funny.
- sincerely 8y agoWasn't that satire?
- gist 8y agoThanks for that link. On another note I am curious if you have an opinion or thought as to what the attorneys for Goldman Sachs will make as a result of a case like this? Not saying this is the type of work you do but just would like to know your (or anyone else's) thoughts.
- reitzensteinm 8y agoDoing a shit job of imitating Hunter S Thompson 20 years ago doesn't automatically make you a "piece of trash human" today. That's going way too far.
- cmurf 8y agoIdeological bias does not negate his standing as a journalist. There is no requirement in journalism to be strictly neutral, to have no opinion, to only report facts dispassionately. His colleagues are journalists, they consider him a journalist, and he's won awards you'd only get if you're a journalist, and his process of information gathering and writing meets the definition of journalism. His style is highly editorialized, but his stories aren't devoid of facts while containing only opinion, and the facts presented aren't often wrong. You can certainly argue from a contrarian perspective that his editorial conclusions are all wrong, but that still wouldn't make him not a journalist. If someone's primary goal is entertainment, you can call it newsertainment or perhaps comedy.
- harryh 8y agoHe most certainly does not report facts dispassionately. He consistently leaves out important data that runs counter to his narrative and exaggerates data that supports it.
- cyberpunk0 8y agoSo does every other journalist, editor, scientist, and human being... including you.
- anigbrowl 8y agoYes, but he's not a good journalist, he's a polemicist. He omits information that's important for his audience to know in order to understand the issue. Chomsky does the same thing. I broadly agree with his conclusions in this example but I trust Taibbi about as much as any other salesman, ie not at all.
- CPLX 8y agoNot only is it possible to be both at the same time, it’s a time honored tradition. Laudable examples who have also greatly enriched society include HL Mencken, Upton Sinclair, and Hunter S. Thompson.
- fit2rule 8y ago.. Émile Zola ..
- erikpukinskis 8y agoPure ad hominem. This comment has no place on HN.