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It’s missing that one can use Hydrogen and avoid this problem: https://nteract.io/ https://nteract.io/. Export isn’t great atm but can be combined with pweave:

It’s missing that one can use Hydrogen and avoid this problem: https://nteract.io/ https://nteract.io/. Export isn’t great atm but can be combined with pweave: http://mpastell.com/pweave/docs.html http://mpastell.com/pweave/docs.html I think VSCode has something similar. This gives another advantage of using a proper editor and its entire ecosystem.

altairiumblue 8y ago
With the VSCode Python extension you can directly create cells with #%% in a similar way to Hydrogen. There is also Neuron which allows you to see outputs in a separate pane. I'm still struggling to find a setup in which cells are auto-generated (or unnecessary like in RStudio) and the autocomplete works as well as in JupyterLab. If I could reliably see all methods/submodules/inline documentation + path autocomplete quickly and for all packages, I would switch to VSCode. (There's a good chance that this just due to me not being fully aware of what's available in VSCode. )
- pavanagrawal123 8y ago
  I have never programmed in R before, but why do you say that there is no need for cells? I use cells/notebooks in Python, so I can keep my code organized and run computationally intensive things once... Is this something that is not needed in R?
  - altairiumblue 8y ago
    So firstly, you can use R in Jupyter in the exact same way you use Python (ju-pyt-er stands for Julia, Python, R). Then R also had RMarkdown which allows to have notebooks with executable cells (code chunks) and they play much nicer with version control than .ipynb files. What I was referring to in my previous post is working with a .R file (which is plain text) in RStudio. If my cursor is on a single line which is also one statement, ctrl/cmd + enter executes that statement and shows me the output in the console or in a separate pane for plots. If the cursor is within a multi-line expression such as a plot declaration, beginning of a loop, function declaration, then the interpreter figures out that I want to run multiple lines and executes the whole loop/declares function/creates plot. Or I can also select some code and run it. Ideally, this is the kind of behaviour that I'd like to replicate with a .py file. It's a nice interactive workflow and also solves the problems that jupyter has with version control.
    - pavanagrawal123 8y ago
      Interesting... I'm currently working on VSNotebooks (extension for VScode), which is a fork from Neuron... I would love to get some ideas that could help bring notebooks into the future, so thanks for your reply!
    - imbiased 8y ago
      Pweave seems to give the same as RMarkdown but for Python and other languages: https://github.com/mpastell/Pweave https://github.com/mpastell/Pweave. Examples: http://mpastell.com/pweave/examples/index.html http://mpastell.com/pweave/examples/index.html
- imbiased 8y ago
  Have you tried https://atom.io/packages/ide-python https://atom.io/packages/ide-python for autocompletion/inline documentation? It uses https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi. Also I'd be surprised if those things aren't done properly in VSCode with Python extension(s). edit: Atom IDE (that this package links to) has been deprecated last week or so by Facebook, I'm not sure what dependencies packages like the above have on the atom-ide-ui.
kylebarron 8y ago
Improved export from Hydrogen to Jupyter Notebooks is at the top of my wishlist, and I'm hoping to submit a PR for it soon. See this issue: https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/issues/1296 https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/issues/1296
- kylebarron 8y ago
  In case anyone reads this, I submitted a PR to support exporting Markdown cells from Hydrogen: https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/pull/1498 https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/pull/1498

altairiumblue 8y ago

With the VSCode Python extension you can directly create cells with #%% in a similar way to Hydrogen. There is also Neuron which allows you to see outputs in a separate pane. I'm still struggling to find a setup in which cells are auto-generated (or unnecessary like in RStudio) and the autocomplete works as well as in JupyterLab. If I could reliably see all methods/submodules/inline documentation + path autocomplete quickly and for all packages, I would switch to VSCode. (There's a good chance that this just due to me not being fully aware of what's available in VSCode. )

pavanagrawal123 8y ago
I have never programmed in R before, but why do you say that there is no need for cells? I use cells/notebooks in Python, so I can keep my code organized and run computationally intensive things once... Is this something that is not needed in R?
- altairiumblue 8y ago
  So firstly, you can use R in Jupyter in the exact same way you use Python (ju-pyt-er stands for Julia, Python, R). Then R also had RMarkdown which allows to have notebooks with executable cells (code chunks) and they play much nicer with version control than .ipynb files. What I was referring to in my previous post is working with a .R file (which is plain text) in RStudio. If my cursor is on a single line which is also one statement, ctrl/cmd + enter executes that statement and shows me the output in the console or in a separate pane for plots. If the cursor is within a multi-line expression such as a plot declaration, beginning of a loop, function declaration, then the interpreter figures out that I want to run multiple lines and executes the whole loop/declares function/creates plot. Or I can also select some code and run it. Ideally, this is the kind of behaviour that I'd like to replicate with a .py file. It's a nice interactive workflow and also solves the problems that jupyter has with version control.
  - pavanagrawal123 8y ago
    Interesting... I'm currently working on VSNotebooks (extension for VScode), which is a fork from Neuron... I would love to get some ideas that could help bring notebooks into the future, so thanks for your reply!
  - imbiased 8y ago
    Pweave seems to give the same as RMarkdown but for Python and other languages: https://github.com/mpastell/Pweave https://github.com/mpastell/Pweave. Examples: http://mpastell.com/pweave/examples/index.html http://mpastell.com/pweave/examples/index.html
imbiased 8y ago
Have you tried https://atom.io/packages/ide-python https://atom.io/packages/ide-python for autocompletion/inline documentation? It uses https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi. Also I'd be surprised if those things aren't done properly in VSCode with Python extension(s). edit: Atom IDE (that this package links to) has been deprecated last week or so by Facebook, I'm not sure what dependencies packages like the above have on the atom-ide-ui.

kylebarron 8y ago

Improved export from Hydrogen to Jupyter Notebooks is at the top of my wishlist, and I'm hoping to submit a PR for it soon. See this issue: https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/issues/1296 https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/issues/1296

kylebarron 8y ago
In case anyone reads this, I submitted a PR to support exporting Markdown cells from Hydrogen: https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/pull/1498 https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen/pull/1498