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the GDPR data takeout option (maybe only for european users) contains a lot of creepy shit (essentially every click and mouse movement), but no audio data

starshadowx2 8y ago
It's not creepy. Discord tracks mouse movements to tell when you're hovering over something and tracks clicks to tell when you've clicked on something. It's just how the client works.
- gsich 8y ago
  It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.
  - starshadowx2 8y ago
    Are you a Discord developer? It does need to be transmitted for it to work based on how Discord is made. Your argument would be better written as, "I believe Discord could be made differently for this not to be needed." I did see a video or article on it earlier, I wish I still knew where to find that.
    - gsich 8y ago
      Common sense. It does not. In fact I just tried it. Went offline, and clicked some settings in the Discord program. It worked. Chat messages from a channel also worked (those preloaded of course) and clicking a link opens the browser. No need for sending cursor information anywhere for this to work. So tell me again, why does Discord need cursor movements to work?
gsich 8y ago
I tried that. The lack of mentioning voice data in their privacy page is disturbing. Except one mention: >Developers: Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata. Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere. Also, >... your activities within the Services is very vague. The lack of mentioning voice data is probably because of the huge backlash. Wiretapping every user.
- vel0city 8y ago
  > Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere. That's not necessarily true. "voice metadata" could be things like quality settings, latency history, when you join a voice channel, when you leave a voice channel, etc. It may have a lot of metadata about it without actually storing the audio streams. A phone PBX will have tons of metadata about calls placed through it, but it might not bother recording every call that goes through it.

starshadowx2 8y ago

It's not creepy. Discord tracks mouse movements to tell when you're hovering over something and tracks clicks to tell when you've clicked on something. It's just how the client works.

gsich 8y ago
It is. Because this data does not need to be transmitted for this to work.
- starshadowx2 8y ago
  Are you a Discord developer? It does need to be transmitted for it to work based on how Discord is made. Your argument would be better written as, "I believe Discord could be made differently for this not to be needed." I did see a video or article on it earlier, I wish I still knew where to find that.
  - gsich 8y ago
    Common sense. It does not. In fact I just tried it. Went offline, and clicked some settings in the Discord program. It worked. Chat messages from a channel also worked (those preloaded of course) and clicking a link opens the browser. No need for sending cursor information anywhere for this to work. So tell me again, why does Discord need cursor movements to work?

gsich 8y ago

I tried that. The lack of mentioning voice data in their privacy page is disturbing. Except one mention: >Developers: Developers using our SDK or API will have access to their end users’ information, including message content, message metadata, and voice metadata. Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere. Also, >... your activities within the Services is very vague. The lack of mentioning voice data is probably because of the huge backlash. Wiretapping every user.

vel0city 8y ago
> Since voice metadata is explicitly mentioned, real voice data must also be stored somewhere. That's not necessarily true. "voice metadata" could be things like quality settings, latency history, when you join a voice channel, when you leave a voice channel, etc. It may have a lot of metadata about it without actually storing the audio streams. A phone PBX will have tons of metadata about calls placed through it, but it might not bother recording every call that goes through it.