> there's a lot of upside to reducing the power of authoritarian oil states that gives dictatorships power to squash democracy and human rights. Can you explai

> there's a lot of upside to reducing the power of authoritarian oil states that gives dictatorships power to squash democracy and human rights. Can you explain how you see that upside playing out? You're suggesting some sort of change in oil price, which alters Saudi Arabian politics, which leads to an improvement in human rights? What would that look like exactly?