> have any of these people so eager to tell us this been to any of these places or shared a few words with people from these allegedly oppressed areas? No. Cer

> have any of these people so eager to tell us this been to any of these places or shared a few words with people from these allegedly oppressed areas? No. Certainly there are people concerned about the recent news of massive Uighur internment camps who have been to Xinjiang. I myself have, twice. That region has, after all, been commonly traveled by overlanders going from Central Asia on to China and Southeast Asia. Before the Beijing Olympics, travel there was relatively hassle-free. And yes, I did do a lot of talking with the Uighurs at the time (I was keen to learn Uighur after already knowing closely-related Turkic languages of Central Asia) and I heard nothing but complaining about the influx of Han Chinese. Now, however, according to reports from travel fora, foreign travelers in Xinjiang are being pushed through the region quickly by police and prevented from any contacts with the Uighur population at all.