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Ah, and it happens that no one makes any "standard" rolls. And what about Pam Spray On pure olive oil labeled fat-free? Serving size small enough for the fat t

Ah, and it happens that no one makes any "standard" rolls. And what about Pam Spray On pure olive oil labeled fat-free? Serving size small enough for the fat to round to zero but not the olive oil content?

dragonwriter 8y ago
> Ah, and it happens that no one makes any "standard" rolls. Yes they do, e.g Charmin Regular rolls (which is important, because some dispensers won't handle bigger rolls), but in any case the utility for comparisons doesn't depend on regular rolls being an option, just as volume in liters of a drink product is useful even if 1.0l isn't one of the package sizes.
- TomMckenny 8y ago
  Which would mean they are comparing to a standard they made up. Which is the gist of my point. Going further down the rabbit hole I find: Charmin rolls labeled "4=16" have 308 sheets. "Regular Rolls" were, when they were available, 121 sheets. Other implied "standards" within Charmin vary from sku to sku. So apparently the Charmin Standard does not exist in their product line and is not a fixed value either. They could just to put the total inches^2 on the package of course.
  - austhrow743 8y ago
    Elsewhere in the thread is people talking about how a business tried to do away with "on sale" shenanigans, just listed reasonable prices, and got fucked horribly. When it comes to anything marketing/sale you have to assume the answer to weird messages like that is "because thats what the consumer wants to see". They want everything they buy to be on sale. They want their toilet paper measured in make believe units. They want me to say "yes we have an option to record that credential, it's just not turned on for this demo" rather than "yeah we can rename the heading of that textbox during implementation" during a software demo.
  - mark-r 8y ago
    I ignore the "sheets" numbers because those are completely defined by the manufacturer. The number they can't lie about is "sq. feet", so that's what I use to compare packages and brands.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Ah, and it happens that no one makes any "standard" rolls. Yes they do, e.g Charmin Regular rolls (which is important, because some dispensers won't handle bigger rolls), but in any case the utility for comparisons doesn't depend on regular rolls being an option, just as volume in liters of a drink product is useful even if 1.0l isn't one of the package sizes.

TomMckenny 8y ago
Which would mean they are comparing to a standard they made up. Which is the gist of my point. Going further down the rabbit hole I find: Charmin rolls labeled "4=16" have 308 sheets. "Regular Rolls" were, when they were available, 121 sheets. Other implied "standards" within Charmin vary from sku to sku. So apparently the Charmin Standard does not exist in their product line and is not a fixed value either. They could just to put the total inches^2 on the package of course.
- austhrow743 8y ago
  Elsewhere in the thread is people talking about how a business tried to do away with "on sale" shenanigans, just listed reasonable prices, and got fucked horribly. When it comes to anything marketing/sale you have to assume the answer to weird messages like that is "because thats what the consumer wants to see". They want everything they buy to be on sale. They want their toilet paper measured in make believe units. They want me to say "yes we have an option to record that credential, it's just not turned on for this demo" rather than "yeah we can rename the heading of that textbox during implementation" during a software demo.
- mark-r 8y ago
  I ignore the "sheets" numbers because those are completely defined by the manufacturer. The number they can't lie about is "sq. feet", so that's what I use to compare packages and brands.