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I never backed Star Citizen, though I keep an ear out for updates here and there. It seems like Derek Smart has come up in every thread about SC for a few year

I never backed Star Citizen, though I keep an ear out for updates here and there. It seems like Derek Smart has come up in every thread about SC for a few years now. Why? Google tells me he developed a similar singleplayer game a long time ago and is currently working on some kind of online venture. Is he attached to the SC project?

figgis 8y ago
I never heard about the guy until today and spent a little while searching.. I can say I am absolutely stumped why this guy is getting any attention at all. All the profiles he's written about himself seem extremely conceited. His posts present hyperbole and opinions as fact. And to top it all off, the exact things he is criticizing SC for he has done himself with his most recent game Line of Defense... https://steamcommunity.com/groups/acpreport/discussions/3/483368526590539030/#c490124466457425075 https://steamcommunity.com/groups/acpreport/discussions/3/48... Dude has an entire subreddit where a majority of the users seem to be devoted to "calling his crap out": https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/ And of course encyclopediadramatica has their own page on the guy (of course nothing there should be taken at face value, just found it amusing after reading up on him): https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Derek_Smart https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Derek_Smart
- iamtom 8y ago
  You appear to be a Star Citizen backer. The composition of those statements are a dead giveaway because it contains all the same talking points you guys spread around to attack him for voicing his opinions on the project. Line Of Defense isn't crowd-funded. It was released on Steam Early Access. His games traditionally take a long time to develop and release because they are complex, and he doesn't have a large team or resources. Comparing an indie funding his own games to a company that has taken over $200 million Dollars in crowd-funding, and also investor money, is laughably foolish.
  - figgis 8y ago
    Or, crazy idea, I did my own searching on the guy and came to the conclusion I just posted above.. His twitter alone could be used in a psychology course.
    - iamtom 8y ago
      Oh I see. In the over 74.6M entries about him on Google, you just happened to pick the detractor talking points which aren't even in the first 10 pages.
      - figgis 8y ago
        You should turn on incognito or use duckduckgo and take a look...
EvilTerran 8y ago
As far as I've been able to tell, Derek Smart and Chris Roberts have a long-standing bitter rivalry over who can make the best space game, driven by the substantial egos on the both of them. At present, that mostly manifests as Smart doomsaying about Star Citizen on the internet to anyone who'll listen, with claims of highly variable quality - but I believe there have been periods in the past when the roles of developer & critic were reversed.
- pvg 8y ago
  bitter rivalry over who can make the best space game That doesn't sound quite right. For all of SC's seemingly infinite problems, Chris Roberts has actually shipped a whole bunch of beloved classics. Derek Smart has not.
  - iamtom 8y ago
    Chris Roberts' last game which he was kicked off by Microsoft, was Freelancer. He exited the video game industry shortly after to go make movies. His Ascendant Pictures venture collapsed a few years later. http://gameranx.com/updates/id/70033/article/the-chris-roberts-theory-of-everything/ http://gameranx.com/updates/id/70033/article/the-chris-rober... Derek Smart, since 1996, has developed and shipped over a dozen games. He still makes games. http://3000ad.com/games/ http://3000ad.com/games/
    - pvg 8y ago
      This is silly. Derek Smart's 'games' are barely games. Chris Roberts, again, has shipped whole bunch of acknowledged classics. Me playing air-guitar in the shower does not make me a 'bitter rival' of Jimmy Page. You could say they're rivals in who is going to turn out to be a bigger scammer and purveyor of unfulfilled promises. Roberts might end up winning that one overwhelmingly as well.
      - iamtom 8y ago
        What you're saying is what's silly and preposterous. Nothing further needs to be said.
iamtom 8y ago
He was an original backer of the project in 2012. In Summer 2015 he wrote a highly publicized blog in which he claimed that because Chris Roberts increased the scope of the game, that it was doomed. In response, CIG refunded his $250 and kicked him off the project. Then they made the grave mistake of issuing a press release lying about it. It's all documented here: http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/star-citizen-how-i-got-involved/ http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/star-citizen-how-i-got-inv... Since that time, the most avid backers of Star Citizen have been waging a proxy war with him on behalf of CIG. And at times it gets a lot worse than the Usenet flamewars he was engaged in back in the day. They even hijacked a sub Reddit bearing his name, and were using it as a way to harass, attack, dox him etc. Until it was closed (by the mods) about a year ago. They re-opened it temporarily due to him being right (once again) about the dire financial straits of the project, as revealed in their financial statement released this week. Kotaku has a five-part series which also covers the beef between him and Chris Roberts. http://www.kotaku.co.uk/tag/inside-star-citizen/ http://www.kotaku.co.uk/tag/inside-star-citizen/ Don't believe everything you read from those who have a vested interest in either Star Citizen, or those who don't like him. So far, he has been 100% on the ball regarding the key issues with this project. From the money part, all the way down to the technology, challenges, schedules etc. Since Summer 2015, he has been obsessively documenting everything about this project. So much so that many on the Internet, including the media, go there for material when writing about this project. It's uncanny and disturbing to say the least. http://dereksmart.org http://dereksmart.org He apparently has plenty of friends who work on or have worked on the project. And they are the ones who appear to have been feeding him his most accurate leaks. For example, about this investment, he leaked the news on Twitter in May. That same month CIG was closing this deal. We know this because the public filings in the UK which became public in Dec, show all the signatures and actions regarding this $46M investment taking place in May. His latest article lays it all out. http://dereksmart.com/forums/reply/6792/ http://dereksmart.com/forums/reply/6792/

figgis 8y ago

I never heard about the guy until today and spent a little while searching.. I can say I am absolutely stumped why this guy is getting any attention at all. All the profiles he's written about himself seem extremely conceited. His posts present hyperbole and opinions as fact. And to top it all off, the exact things he is criticizing SC for he has done himself with his most recent game Line of Defense... https://steamcommunity.com/groups/acpreport/discussions/3/483368526590539030/#c490124466457425075 https://steamcommunity.com/groups/acpreport/discussions/3/48... Dude has an entire subreddit where a majority of the users seem to be devoted to "calling his crap out": https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/ And of course encyclopediadramatica has their own page on the guy (of course nothing there should be taken at face value, just found it amusing after reading up on him): https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Derek_Smart https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Derek_Smart

iamtom 8y ago
You appear to be a Star Citizen backer. The composition of those statements are a dead giveaway because it contains all the same talking points you guys spread around to attack him for voicing his opinions on the project. Line Of Defense isn't crowd-funded. It was released on Steam Early Access. His games traditionally take a long time to develop and release because they are complex, and he doesn't have a large team or resources. Comparing an indie funding his own games to a company that has taken over $200 million Dollars in crowd-funding, and also investor money, is laughably foolish.
- figgis 8y ago
  Or, crazy idea, I did my own searching on the guy and came to the conclusion I just posted above.. His twitter alone could be used in a psychology course.
  - iamtom 8y ago
    Oh I see. In the over 74.6M entries about him on Google, you just happened to pick the detractor talking points which aren't even in the first 10 pages.
    - figgis 8y ago
      You should turn on incognito or use duckduckgo and take a look...

EvilTerran 8y ago

As far as I've been able to tell, Derek Smart and Chris Roberts have a long-standing bitter rivalry over who can make the best space game, driven by the substantial egos on the both of them. At present, that mostly manifests as Smart doomsaying about Star Citizen on the internet to anyone who'll listen, with claims of highly variable quality - but I believe there have been periods in the past when the roles of developer & critic were reversed.

pvg 8y ago
bitter rivalry over who can make the best space game That doesn't sound quite right. For all of SC's seemingly infinite problems, Chris Roberts has actually shipped a whole bunch of beloved classics. Derek Smart has not.
- iamtom 8y ago
  Chris Roberts' last game which he was kicked off by Microsoft, was Freelancer. He exited the video game industry shortly after to go make movies. His Ascendant Pictures venture collapsed a few years later. http://gameranx.com/updates/id/70033/article/the-chris-roberts-theory-of-everything/ http://gameranx.com/updates/id/70033/article/the-chris-rober... Derek Smart, since 1996, has developed and shipped over a dozen games. He still makes games. http://3000ad.com/games/ http://3000ad.com/games/
  - pvg 8y ago
    This is silly. Derek Smart's 'games' are barely games. Chris Roberts, again, has shipped whole bunch of acknowledged classics. Me playing air-guitar in the shower does not make me a 'bitter rival' of Jimmy Page. You could say they're rivals in who is going to turn out to be a bigger scammer and purveyor of unfulfilled promises. Roberts might end up winning that one overwhelmingly as well.
    - iamtom 8y ago
      What you're saying is what's silly and preposterous. Nothing further needs to be said.

iamtom 8y ago

He was an original backer of the project in 2012. In Summer 2015 he wrote a highly publicized blog in which he claimed that because Chris Roberts increased the scope of the game, that it was doomed. In response, CIG refunded his $250 and kicked him off the project. Then they made the grave mistake of issuing a press release lying about it. It's all documented here: http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/star-citizen-how-i-got-involved/ http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/08/star-citizen-how-i-got-inv... Since that time, the most avid backers of Star Citizen have been waging a proxy war with him on behalf of CIG. And at times it gets a lot worse than the Usenet flamewars he was engaged in back in the day. They even hijacked a sub Reddit bearing his name, and were using it as a way to harass, attack, dox him etc. Until it was closed (by the mods) about a year ago. They re-opened it temporarily due to him being right (once again) about the dire financial straits of the project, as revealed in their financial statement released this week. Kotaku has a five-part series which also covers the beef between him and Chris Roberts. http://www.kotaku.co.uk/tag/inside-star-citizen/ http://www.kotaku.co.uk/tag/inside-star-citizen/ Don't believe everything you read from those who have a vested interest in either Star Citizen, or those who don't like him. So far, he has been 100% on the ball regarding the key issues with this project. From the money part, all the way down to the technology, challenges, schedules etc. Since Summer 2015, he has been obsessively documenting everything about this project. So much so that many on the Internet, including the media, go there for material when writing about this project. It's uncanny and disturbing to say the least. http://dereksmart.org http://dereksmart.org He apparently has plenty of friends who work on or have worked on the project. And they are the ones who appear to have been feeding him his most accurate leaks. For example, about this investment, he leaked the news on Twitter in May. That same month CIG was closing this deal. We know this because the public filings in the UK which became public in Dec, show all the signatures and actions regarding this $46M investment taking place in May. His latest article lays it all out. http://dereksmart.com/forums/reply/6792/ http://dereksmart.com/forums/reply/6792/