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The thing is you are using a subjective pseudo-scientific conjecture ("group-hysterical episode") narrated to us by the media to describe the situation. I would

The thing is you are using a subjective pseudo-scientific conjecture ("group-hysterical episode") narrated to us by the media to describe the situation. I would not blame anybody for believing there was ritual abuse based on the testimony & the peculiarities of the case. I see the parents' reaction as being rational (not hysterical) given the information they were presented with. Even today, the case does not seem conclusive. Maybe what was labeled as "hysteria" was really awareness to this type of criminal. It was the discrediting, pathologization of potential victims, general lack of empathy by the media, & conspiracy by law enforcement which caused the likes of Jimmy Savile (who was in royal circles) to get away with his crimes for so long. Also child sex trafficking being a widespread phenomenon deeply embedded in influential circles (otherwise, how would it be so widespread & networked around the world). I agree in keeping the analysis open-ended by not committing to a particular narrative, however there's plenty of possibilities given the information that we know & what we don't know. Secret societies with influential members do not help the analysis since it's plausible that they would be involved with criminal activity & conspiracy. --- edit: I did more research & found then former FBI Agent Ted Gunderson's account (with photos) of the tunnels which lead to a ritual site. Also there were photos of satanic symbology found on plates & murals. Maybe I missed something in research or something else is amiss... https://youtu.be/8TsQxzOkgMY?t=1348 https://youtu.be/8TsQxzOkgMY?t=1348

Nursie 8y ago
I'm sorry but these incidents are widely understood to be a combination of moral panic, poor policing, investigators leading children, bad psychology ("recovered memory") with crank psychologists trying to make a name for themselves and a variety of other factors. They've been well studied, and far from turning up an international network of demonic ritual abusers, baby murderers and cannibals, they've turned up good evidence of a clusterfuck that damaged children by removing them from parents, damaged relationships and even entire towns with widespread false allegations. With "Satanic Ritual Abuse" there is no "this type of criminal". There is no crime. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be a true believer on this one.
- briantakita 8y ago
  I'm sorry, but 9 of the jurors were convinced that these children were abused; however they could not finger a perpetrator. There is photographic evidence of the tunnels with the testimony of the children & law enforcement. A suspect, Robert Winkler, died before his court examination. Winkler who in Torrence, CA was "charged with running a baby-sitting service out of the Coco Palms Motel that authorities described as a front for a sexual abuse ring". Mother Judy Johnson also died before testifying, after receiving death threats. More coincidences, always more coincidences. There's nothing that substantiates a "satanic panic" other than appeal to emotion and tautology; and there's plenty of effort to convince the public of the narrative. I don't need to convince you of anything, however, I also don't buy the demonization of law enforcement & possible victims for unsubstantiated reasons. Have you considered that you have been fed a story? Have you done any meaningful research into this from a variety of sources that don't confirm your bias? Your attempt to convince me of your beliefs with poor logic only makes me question your narrative & motivated to look more into the case. I found this podcast to be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVa7730omIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVa7730omIk

Nursie 8y ago

I'm sorry but these incidents are widely understood to be a combination of moral panic, poor policing, investigators leading children, bad psychology ("recovered memory") with crank psychologists trying to make a name for themselves and a variety of other factors. They've been well studied, and far from turning up an international network of demonic ritual abusers, baby murderers and cannibals, they've turned up good evidence of a clusterfuck that damaged children by removing them from parents, damaged relationships and even entire towns with widespread false allegations. With "Satanic Ritual Abuse" there is no "this type of criminal". There is no crime. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be a true believer on this one.

briantakita 8y ago
I'm sorry, but 9 of the jurors were convinced that these children were abused; however they could not finger a perpetrator. There is photographic evidence of the tunnels with the testimony of the children & law enforcement. A suspect, Robert Winkler, died before his court examination. Winkler who in Torrence, CA was "charged with running a baby-sitting service out of the Coco Palms Motel that authorities described as a front for a sexual abuse ring". Mother Judy Johnson also died before testifying, after receiving death threats. More coincidences, always more coincidences. There's nothing that substantiates a "satanic panic" other than appeal to emotion and tautology; and there's plenty of effort to convince the public of the narrative. I don't need to convince you of anything, however, I also don't buy the demonization of law enforcement & possible victims for unsubstantiated reasons. Have you considered that you have been fed a story? Have you done any meaningful research into this from a variety of sources that don't confirm your bias? Your attempt to convince me of your beliefs with poor logic only makes me question your narrative & motivated to look more into the case. I found this podcast to be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVa7730omIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVa7730omIk