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> Five Eyes assistance embedded in their products You don't see the Five Eyes nations harvesting organs of their citizens. Would you like me to list the other
by throwawaychino 8y ago
> Five Eyes assistance embedded in their products
You don't see the Five Eyes nations harvesting organs of their citizens.
Would you like me to list the other human rights violations China commits?
- hangonhn 8y agoYour reasoning makes no sense: China violates human rights therefore it is OK for the Five Eyes nations to spy on people? Your reasoning structurally unsound.
- lostlogin 8y agoThat’s a what-aboutism. The organisations that participate in five-eyes are just as opaque as their Chinese counterparts from a citizens perspective and they have been monitoring their own populations. This aspect of five eyes government behaviour is uncomfortably close to Chinese government behaviour in my view. Obviously China’s human rights record is abysmal, and the five eyes countries are vastly closer to civilised.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoFive Eyes operate under political oversight (various committees of elected officials), the rule of law and an independent judiciary, there is a free press with protected informants, whistle blowers etc. etc.. Quite different than an authoritarian system.
- lostlogin 8y agoI am very far from convinced of these things. The complete lack of transparency and the dubious things that have happened and been revealed by the likes of Wikileaks lead me to believe that their oversight is deeply flawed.