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It doesn't take that advanced of a programmer to know that a simple chat client like discord or slack should not take seconds (on the order of 5 to 6) to load!

It doesn't take that advanced of a programmer to know that a simple chat client like discord or slack should not take seconds (on the order of 5 to 6) to load! We are running super computers here! https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32

sime2009 8y ago
Maybe you should go back and read scoopdewoop's comment again. Half of their point was that slack and discord are not simple text only chat clients.
- exitcode00 8y ago
  Ok, perhaps that was an over simplification - they are "complicated chat clients", but that still doesn't excuse the fact that massive industrial programs start instantly nowadays if they are native - think Unreal Engine, 3ds Studio Max, Blender, Sublime Text, the list goes on
  - tinco 8y ago
    What universe do you live in where unreal engine launches in less than 30 seconds?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
  They don't really do anything more complicated than a reasonably fancy IRC client did in 1995, yet I bet you they're a lot slower to do it.
  - orf 8y ago
    Yeah, it's totally fair and correct to say that slack doesn't do anything more complicated than an IRC client did in 1995. Try using the global search feature on Slack and tell me how that already existed in IRC circa 1995.
    - eitland 8y ago
      > Try using the global search feature on Slack and tell me how that already existed in IRC circa 1995. Isn't that particular feature mostly implemented server side? On the other hand, yes, I agree that modern messengers has a lot of features that my IRC clients missed (voice comes to mind). Also they are easier for mainstream users to use and administer, and, compared to old IRC, safer in a number of ways (although I'd add that we are seeing a number of new threats now).
jf- 8y ago
A useful heuristic: anyone who's argument is of the form "x is cancer" can safely be ignored.
- exitcode00 8y ago
  Lets just simplify "x is cancer" to simply mean "x is bad". Now, you think that calling something "bad" on its face with arguments is something to be ignored or that it is always BS? I hate to say it but you sound "IGNORANT" ; )

sime2009 8y ago

Maybe you should go back and read scoopdewoop's comment again. Half of their point was that slack and discord are not simple text only chat clients.

exitcode00 8y ago
Ok, perhaps that was an over simplification - they are "complicated chat clients", but that still doesn't excuse the fact that massive industrial programs start instantly nowadays if they are native - think Unreal Engine, 3ds Studio Max, Blender, Sublime Text, the list goes on
- tinco 8y ago
  What universe do you live in where unreal engine launches in less than 30 seconds?
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
They don't really do anything more complicated than a reasonably fancy IRC client did in 1995, yet I bet you they're a lot slower to do it.
- orf 8y ago
  Yeah, it's totally fair and correct to say that slack doesn't do anything more complicated than an IRC client did in 1995. Try using the global search feature on Slack and tell me how that already existed in IRC circa 1995.
  - eitland 8y ago
    > Try using the global search feature on Slack and tell me how that already existed in IRC circa 1995. Isn't that particular feature mostly implemented server side? On the other hand, yes, I agree that modern messengers has a lot of features that my IRC clients missed (voice comes to mind). Also they are easier for mainstream users to use and administer, and, compared to old IRC, safer in a number of ways (although I'd add that we are seeing a number of new threats now).

jf- 8y ago

A useful heuristic: anyone who's argument is of the form "x is cancer" can safely be ignored.

exitcode00 8y ago
Lets just simplify "x is cancer" to simply mean "x is bad". Now, you think that calling something "bad" on its face with arguments is something to be ignored or that it is always BS? I hate to say it but you sound "IGNORANT" ; )