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Agree.. Are there any major social app that you can absotely trust your private data with?

Barrin92 8y ago
Diaspora and Mastodon are good alternatives (but are ironically not on this list). Both are federated solutions that let you set up your own instances, or use public ones. https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://joinmastodon.org/ https://joinmastodon.org/
- echevil 8y ago
  It’s hard to see if any of these self-hosted or decentralized solution would ever take off. For a social app, you need to get your friends and also public figures to use the same thing for it to be worth using at all. If it is more complicated to use than Facebook or similar, it will probably never be adopted by general public. And if the general public actually got into the same app, it would then become a new target for attacks.
  - Barrin92 8y ago
    they're not decentralised in the sense that you seem to be implying. They're all federated, meaning that your data is situated on your own or a server of your choice, while the posts and users are still visible globally. You are not limited to only interact with people on your own instance, this is very much the point. Diaspora allows for quite easy interaction with the mainstream social media apps as well. Also I haven't used diaspora much so I can't speak from experience there, but creating a mastodon account is no more complicated than signing up for twitter.
    - echevil 8y ago
      Sorry I was talking about the french solution https://movim.eu/ https://movim.eu/ when I say decentralized. Thanks for the recommendation and explanations though!
laphony 8y ago
There have been some attempts in France to create some more trustfully social networks based on open-source software and decentralized paradigm. Here some of them: - Movim, a kind of XMPP-based social network: https://movim.eu/ https://movim.eu/ - Accounts for Mastodon and Diaspora instances from Framasoft by its "De-google-ify Internet" initiative: https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/list#tag-social https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/list#tag-social - Other ethical hosts defined by the KITTENS/CHATONS chart (full translation in English in progress): https://chatons.org/en https://chatons.org/en Be aware, even if you can self-hosting your own accounts, you have to consider how your "friend's" accounts are hosted.

Diaspora and Mastodon are good alternatives (but are ironically not on this list). Both are federated solutions that let you set up your own instances, or use public ones. https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://joinmastodon.org/ https://joinmastodon.org/

echevil 8y ago
It’s hard to see if any of these self-hosted or decentralized solution would ever take off. For a social app, you need to get your friends and also public figures to use the same thing for it to be worth using at all. If it is more complicated to use than Facebook or similar, it will probably never be adopted by general public. And if the general public actually got into the same app, it would then become a new target for attacks.
- Barrin92 8y ago
  they're not decentralised in the sense that you seem to be implying. They're all federated, meaning that your data is situated on your own or a server of your choice, while the posts and users are still visible globally. You are not limited to only interact with people on your own instance, this is very much the point. Diaspora allows for quite easy interaction with the mainstream social media apps as well. Also I haven't used diaspora much so I can't speak from experience there, but creating a mastodon account is no more complicated than signing up for twitter.
  - echevil 8y ago
    Sorry I was talking about the french solution https://movim.eu/ https://movim.eu/ when I say decentralized. Thanks for the recommendation and explanations though!

laphony 8y ago

There have been some attempts in France to create some more trustfully social networks based on open-source software and decentralized paradigm. Here some of them: - Movim, a kind of XMPP-based social network: https://movim.eu/ https://movim.eu/ - Accounts for Mastodon and Diaspora instances from Framasoft by its "De-google-ify Internet" initiative: https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/list#tag-social https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/list#tag-social - Other ethical hosts defined by the KITTENS/CHATONS chart (full translation in English in progress): https://chatons.org/en https://chatons.org/en Be aware, even if you can self-hosting your own accounts, you have to consider how your "friend's" accounts are hosted.