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However the product itself lacks...everything. I don't know if I, a frequent Star Citizen player and Day 1 backer would say it lacks "everything", and am unsur

However the product itself lacks...everything. I don't know if I, a frequent Star Citizen player and Day 1 backer would say it lacks "everything", and am unsure if your hyperbole was just for dramatic effect but from the first executable to where we are now in Alpha version 3.4 (soon to be 3.5), we have an impressive amount of content-all things considered, especially via in-game locales and systems that have facilitated some incredible emergent gameplay among the player base. The "Jumptown Wars" have been an amazing thing to watch and participate in, and I encourage you to go look through the Star Citizen subreddit to see some of the in-game coordination players are engaging in just to secure a static trading depot on a dead moon (diving deeper into the anecdote rabbit hole: I participated in a 12 ship assault on said depot when a pilot in the player "Organization"-SC's guild system-I'm a member of was shot down by a rival group and requested evac). It's light years from lacking "everything". It's not complete, but it's also not near as empty of an experience as you seem to be suggesting.

Ralfp 8y ago
I'm in "stand on the side and enjoy the show" camp myself, but looking at gameplays, the game is not that lacking. Its vertical slice that they can now build upon. I'm not aware if there's dynamic economy or sandbox wideopen yet, but I'm not losing anything holding out and bidding my time for final release.
- iamdave 8y ago
  I'm not aware if there's dynamic economy Kiiiind of? As in, you can see the framework of how it could work, and to a certain extent, specific actions by one player at-for example-the Grim Hex Orbital station can affect trade for another player, but it's a level of detail I wont bore you with by typing out a gigantic wall of text. But again, it's not fully fleshed out, and lacks a few elements, but it's not nothing, and what it is, is enough to have spawned a trade war among players, which we are having loads of fun with.
Krasnol 8y ago
The only impressive thing about this is the exaggeration that is being played out here. Which is also a reason why I don't go to the related subreddit anymore. We are still talking about a absolute minimal part of what the end product is supposed to be and the cheering happening now is related to basic things that are not so bad anymore (FPS, server stability, etc.). Considering the time frame and the budget we're talking about here, its a joke...I wrote "everything" because it depends what the topic is with the fans the product is either not there "because it's Alpha" (even though with the PTU shouldn't it be pre Alpha?) or it's a great product because it's so fun now and so on. So maybe I should have rather said the product is in Shroedingers Box and we don't know what it is. In my opinion it's a terrible abomination and it reflects Roberts career and pretty much the worse things about the gaming industry today. I don't see a single good thing about what is happening there. I just hope nobody, ever will get the idea that this is a way of delivering a game or any kind of product.

Ralfp 8y ago

I'm in "stand on the side and enjoy the show" camp myself, but looking at gameplays, the game is not that lacking. Its vertical slice that they can now build upon. I'm not aware if there's dynamic economy or sandbox wideopen yet, but I'm not losing anything holding out and bidding my time for final release.

iamdave 8y ago
I'm not aware if there's dynamic economy Kiiiind of? As in, you can see the framework of how it could work, and to a certain extent, specific actions by one player at-for example-the Grim Hex Orbital station can affect trade for another player, but it's a level of detail I wont bore you with by typing out a gigantic wall of text. But again, it's not fully fleshed out, and lacks a few elements, but it's not nothing, and what it is, is enough to have spawned a trade war among players, which we are having loads of fun with.

Krasnol 8y ago

The only impressive thing about this is the exaggeration that is being played out here. Which is also a reason why I don't go to the related subreddit anymore. We are still talking about a absolute minimal part of what the end product is supposed to be and the cheering happening now is related to basic things that are not so bad anymore (FPS, server stability, etc.). Considering the time frame and the budget we're talking about here, its a joke...I wrote "everything" because it depends what the topic is with the fans the product is either not there "because it's Alpha" (even though with the PTU shouldn't it be pre Alpha?) or it's a great product because it's so fun now and so on. So maybe I should have rather said the product is in Shroedingers Box and we don't know what it is. In my opinion it's a terrible abomination and it reflects Roberts career and pretty much the worse things about the gaming industry today. I don't see a single good thing about what is happening there. I just hope nobody, ever will get the idea that this is a way of delivering a game or any kind of product.