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How many coal power plants have been built because of the closure of nuclear power plants?

ajuc 8y ago
Many: http://airclim.org/acidnews/germany-still-constructing-new-coal-power-stations http://airclim.org/acidnews/germany-still-constructing-new-c... https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-germany-nuclear/german-government-wants-nuclear-exit-by-2022-at-latest-idUKTRE74Q2P120110530 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-germany-nuclear/german-gov...
belorn 8y ago
A while back there was a story on HN that link to a page that listed every country and how much of their energy consumption get created from different sources. One very noticeable aspect is that almost every country create their energy through either coal or nuclear power, with all other usually representing a singular digit. If it has 20% coal, then around 70% will be nuclear. If its 70% coal, 20% nuclear. Nothing is more clear cut when comparing France and Germany next to each other.
- mikeash 8y ago
  How recent were those numbers? The US is currently around 30% coal, 20% nuclear (so only about 50% combined), 32% gas, and almost all of the rest is renewables of various sorts. Germany is 35% coal, 12% nuclear, 13% gas, 35% renewables. France is 72% nuclear, 12% hydro, 8% coal and gas. I'm having trouble finding the exact breakdown of coal and gas for France, but it looks like gas dominates.
  - rypskar 8y ago
    Is probably talking about https://www.electricitymap.org/?wind=false&solar=false&page=map&remote=true https://www.electricitymap.org/?wind=false&solar=false&page=.... Is live, or close to live data
    - belorn 8y ago
      It looks like it but either I remember very incorrectly, or the numbers for Germany has changed significant since the summer. Found this which might explain why: https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&week=51&year=2017 https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&we... One thing through, did forget that gas hold a large portion of energy production and had clumped it together with coal.
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brudgers 8y ago
OUC built the coal fired plant to replace an oil fired plant on Lake Ivanhoe near downtown. At the time it was built, nuclear wasn't considered economically viable. Florida's existing nuclear plants had construction cost overruns and much higher operating costs than expected. Those unfortunate enough to get their power from the utilities with nuclear plants were paying substantially higher rates to offset those costs.

ajuc 8y ago

Many: http://airclim.org/acidnews/germany-still-constructing-new-coal-power-stations http://airclim.org/acidnews/germany-still-constructing-new-c... https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-germany-nuclear/german-government-wants-nuclear-exit-by-2022-at-latest-idUKTRE74Q2P120110530 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-germany-nuclear/german-gov...

belorn 8y ago

A while back there was a story on HN that link to a page that listed every country and how much of their energy consumption get created from different sources. One very noticeable aspect is that almost every country create their energy through either coal or nuclear power, with all other usually representing a singular digit. If it has 20% coal, then around 70% will be nuclear. If its 70% coal, 20% nuclear. Nothing is more clear cut when comparing France and Germany next to each other.

mikeash 8y ago
How recent were those numbers? The US is currently around 30% coal, 20% nuclear (so only about 50% combined), 32% gas, and almost all of the rest is renewables of various sorts. Germany is 35% coal, 12% nuclear, 13% gas, 35% renewables. France is 72% nuclear, 12% hydro, 8% coal and gas. I'm having trouble finding the exact breakdown of coal and gas for France, but it looks like gas dominates.
- rypskar 8y ago
  Is probably talking about https://www.electricitymap.org/?wind=false&solar=false&page=map&remote=true https://www.electricitymap.org/?wind=false&solar=false&page=.... Is live, or close to live data
  - belorn 8y ago
    It looks like it but either I remember very incorrectly, or the numbers for Germany has changed significant since the summer. Found this which might explain why: https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&week=51&year=2017 https://www.energy-charts.de/power.htm?source=all-sources&we... One thing through, did forget that gas hold a large portion of energy production and had clumped it together with coal.
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brudgers 8y ago

OUC built the coal fired plant to replace an oil fired plant on Lake Ivanhoe near downtown. At the time it was built, nuclear wasn't considered economically viable. Florida's existing nuclear plants had construction cost overruns and much higher operating costs than expected. Those unfortunate enough to get their power from the utilities with nuclear plants were paying substantially higher rates to offset those costs.