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Thanks for linking this, that’s an interesting article. I was not aware of the link between beach cleanup and gyre cleanup. I guess my general perspective is t

Thanks for linking this, that’s an interesting article. I was not aware of the link between beach cleanup and gyre cleanup. I guess my general perspective is that: 1. I am not arguing that slats solution is the best solution or the only solution. I think that if it drives awareness of the issue and eventually leads us to a better solution, then it’s a success in a backwards kind of way, even if it doesn’t “succeed” 2. Concerns about its potential harm I think are a bit overblown. In real terms, what are we talking about in terms of bycatch and how does that compare percentage wise to “bycatch” from other human activities? (Shipping, commercial fishing, coastal development, climate change?). The impacts from those things are huge, so I doubt that this system is really going to make that big of an impact comparatively. 3. Complaints about the money that could have gone to other better things are also a bit invalid. I’m willing to bet that most of that 20 mil would not have gone to other solutions anyway. So it’s not taking money from other things in reality.

pizza234 8y ago
> 1. I am not arguing that slats solution is the best solution or the only solution. I think that if it drives awareness of the issue and eventually leads us to a better solution, then it’s a success in a backwards kind of way, even if it doesn’t “succeed” Critial positions argue that there are already valid solutions, and that boom-based technologies (and similar) are a lost cause. In this perspective, improvements to the latter technologies are nothing short of quixotic. > I’m willing to bet that most of that 20 mil would not have gone to other solutions anyway. So it’s not taking money from other things in reality. 20 millions, in the form of beach cleaning, would have cleaned a lot of garbage from the ocean[s].

pizza234 8y ago

> 1. I am not arguing that slats solution is the best solution or the only solution. I think that if it drives awareness of the issue and eventually leads us to a better solution, then it’s a success in a backwards kind of way, even if it doesn’t “succeed” Critial positions argue that there are already valid solutions, and that boom-based technologies (and similar) are a lost cause. In this perspective, improvements to the latter technologies are nothing short of quixotic. > I’m willing to bet that most of that 20 mil would not have gone to other solutions anyway. So it’s not taking money from other things in reality. 20 millions, in the form of beach cleaning, would have cleaned a lot of garbage from the ocean[s].