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> The next time anyone tries to sell me on the notion that the public sector can't do anything as well as the private sector What if I try to sell you on the n

by umvi 8y ago

> The next time anyone tries to sell me on the notion that the public sector can't do anything as well as the private sector What if I try to sell you on the notion that getting quality this high out of the public sector is extremely unlikely?

jacobtwotwo 8y ago
What if I just ask pointless hypothetical questions and follow them up with no substance at all?
jarvuschris 8y ago
It doesn't happen most of the time yet, but that doesn't mean it's a gamble. I wouldn't describe it as "extremely unlikely" We actually have figured out how to run public sector software projects successfully. It's not a mystery anymore. There's a lot of barriers still to practicing agile service design within the constraints of most government organizations, but good results are consistent where you can carve out the space to implement it. Look at "digital services" teams at every level of gov: - UK Originals: https://gds.blog.gov.uk/ https://gds.blog.gov.uk/ - US Stormers: https://18f.gsa.gov/ https://18f.gsa.gov/ - US Normers: https://www.usds.gov/ https://www.usds.gov/ - CA State Child Welfare: https://cwds.ca.gov/ https://cwds.ca.gov/ - CA Benefits Enrollment: https://www.getcalfresh.org/ https://www.getcalfresh.org/ - CA Digital Services: https://github.com/CDTgithub/DigitalServiceOpportunities https://github.com/CDTgithub/DigitalServiceOpportunities - MA Digital Services: https://www.mass.gov/orgs/digital-services https://www.mass.gov/orgs/digital-services - Philadelphia: https://www.phila.gov/departments/office-of-open-data-and-digital-transformation/ https://www.phila.gov/departments/office-of-open-data-and-di... - San Francisco: https://digitalservices.sfgov.org/ https://digitalservices.sfgov.org/ - NYC: https://playbook.cityofnewyork.us/ https://playbook.cityofnewyork.us/ - Boston: https://www.boston.gov/departments/digital-team https://www.boston.gov/departments/digital-team
starbeast 8y ago
What if I try to sell you on the notion that getting high quality is extremely unlikely by definition, otherwise it would be called average quality?
jtloong 8y ago
This is what the whole digital government movement is trying to change. Public sector organization's in the UK (GDS), Canada (CDS, ODS etc), Singapore (GovTech Singapore), even 18F in the US, are all trying (and relatively succeeding even if incrementally) to change the public sector's ability to put out quality technology services.

by umvi 8y ago

jacobtwotwo 8y ago

What if I just ask pointless hypothetical questions and follow them up with no substance at all?

jarvuschris 8y ago

It doesn't happen most of the time yet, but that doesn't mean it's a gamble. I wouldn't describe it as "extremely unlikely" We actually have figured out how to run public sector software projects successfully. It's not a mystery anymore. There's a lot of barriers still to practicing agile service design within the constraints of most government organizations, but good results are consistent where you can carve out the space to implement it. Look at "digital services" teams at every level of gov: - UK Originals: https://gds.blog.gov.uk/ https://gds.blog.gov.uk/ - US Stormers: https://18f.gsa.gov/ https://18f.gsa.gov/ - US Normers: https://www.usds.gov/ https://www.usds.gov/ - CA State Child Welfare: https://cwds.ca.gov/ https://cwds.ca.gov/ - CA Benefits Enrollment: https://www.getcalfresh.org/ https://www.getcalfresh.org/ - CA Digital Services: https://github.com/CDTgithub/DigitalServiceOpportunities https://github.com/CDTgithub/DigitalServiceOpportunities - MA Digital Services: https://www.mass.gov/orgs/digital-services https://www.mass.gov/orgs/digital-services - Philadelphia: https://www.phila.gov/departments/office-of-open-data-and-digital-transformation/ https://www.phila.gov/departments/office-of-open-data-and-di... - San Francisco: https://digitalservices.sfgov.org/ https://digitalservices.sfgov.org/ - NYC: https://playbook.cityofnewyork.us/ https://playbook.cityofnewyork.us/ - Boston: https://www.boston.gov/departments/digital-team https://www.boston.gov/departments/digital-team

starbeast 8y ago

What if I try to sell you on the notion that getting high quality is extremely unlikely by definition, otherwise it would be called average quality?

jtloong 8y ago

This is what the whole digital government movement is trying to change. Public sector organization's in the UK (GDS), Canada (CDS, ODS etc), Singapore (GovTech Singapore), even 18F in the US, are all trying (and relatively succeeding even if incrementally) to change the public sector's ability to put out quality technology services.