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You can refuse to pay, but they can still send the bill to collections and wreck your credit. Also, the hospital did actually perform work here, the crazy part

You can refuse to pay, but they can still send the bill to collections and wreck your credit. Also, the hospital did actually perform work here, the crazy part is that they're billing the innocent suspect instead of the police here.

mindslight 8y ago
But the hospital has no contract whatsoever with the suspect. All work was performed at the behest of the police. I can't just send you a bill for replying to your comment (saying it was done "for you") and have you be obligated to pay it! It seems like a collections agency that keeps pushing an invalid debt is part of a conspiracy to commit fraud. And a report to the surveillance bureaus that "wrecks your credit" would be straightforward slander. Most of the behavior here is best described by some very basic crimes. Why are we letting these organizations off the hook?
- lovich 8y ago
  They're richer than regular people and can use that money to influence the laws that are made and influence prosecutors from going after them. It's a glib response, but is there any other explanation that fits the observable data? If a random citizen performed the same actions against these organizations, does anyone here believe the citizen would get away with no issues?
yayana 8y ago
The crazy part is that a doctor willingly violated the Hippocratic Oath in a state that could do virtually nothing to him for following the ethics of his profession. Mr Jackson should use civil rights group lawyers to go after that doctor.
- yellowapple 8y ago
  Per the article, the hospital did refuse, at least at first, probably on those grounds.
  - yayana 8y ago
    Per the article, the police then got legal rights against the patient's right to refuse, which means nothing to a doctor when it comes to an obligation of inaction.
cwkoss 8y ago
There should be statutory fines for a business falsely claiming that someone owes them money, or claiming they owe an incorrect amount.

mindslight 8y ago

But the hospital has no contract whatsoever with the suspect. All work was performed at the behest of the police. I can't just send you a bill for replying to your comment (saying it was done "for you") and have you be obligated to pay it! It seems like a collections agency that keeps pushing an invalid debt is part of a conspiracy to commit fraud. And a report to the surveillance bureaus that "wrecks your credit" would be straightforward slander. Most of the behavior here is best described by some very basic crimes. Why are we letting these organizations off the hook?

lovich 8y ago
They're richer than regular people and can use that money to influence the laws that are made and influence prosecutors from going after them. It's a glib response, but is there any other explanation that fits the observable data? If a random citizen performed the same actions against these organizations, does anyone here believe the citizen would get away with no issues?

yayana 8y ago

The crazy part is that a doctor willingly violated the Hippocratic Oath in a state that could do virtually nothing to him for following the ethics of his profession. Mr Jackson should use civil rights group lawyers to go after that doctor.

yellowapple 8y ago
Per the article, the hospital did refuse, at least at first, probably on those grounds.
- yayana 8y ago
  Per the article, the police then got legal rights against the patient's right to refuse, which means nothing to a doctor when it comes to an obligation of inaction.

cwkoss 8y ago

There should be statutory fines for a business falsely claiming that someone owes them money, or claiming they owe an incorrect amount.