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You may well have been asked for explicit consent to message access. The New York Times is specifically vague about this. They could tell us what kind of access

You may well have been asked for explicit consent to message access. The New York Times is specifically vague about this. They could tell us what kind of access was asked for, but they do not even mention that any kind of access was asked for. Why?

wil421 8y ago
According to the Verge Apple had acces to data even if the user explicitly disabled data sharing. >Giving Apple access to users’ Facebook contacts and calendar entries, even if they had disabled data sharing, as part of a partnership that still exists.
- miracle2k 8y ago
  > According to the Verge Apple had acces to data even if the user explicitly disabled data sharing. First, the Verge article (https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18147616/facebook-user-data-giveaway-nyt-apple-amazon-spotify-netflix https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18147616/facebook-user-d...) did not do any original reporting, they are referencing the New York Times. This is another thing - people think stories have more weight and truth than they do because you've got a 100 publications writing about some other publications article. The New York Times article makes this claim, but does not explain what "explicitly disabling data sharing" means. Are they saying that I sign in to Spotify, I am asked to give access, I say no, but Spotify still gets the data? That would indeed be bad. It is unlikely this has happened. If this did happen, it would be worth a couple of words of explanation more, no? They are instead likely referring to this dialog: https://c-7npsfqifvt0x24dofu4x2edctjtubujdx2edpn.g00.cnet.com/g00/3_c-7x78x78x78.dofu.dpn_/c-7NPSFQIFVT0x24iuuqtx3ax2fx2fdofu4.dctjtubujd.dpnx2fjnhx2fDbIakrzwCx78x78-gApFjIbGLOf7ZJFx3dx2f681y1x2f3129x2f14x2f32x2f075d6d7g-cee3-53g9-c2e8-88795g023bf1x2ftdsffo-tipu-3129-14-31-bu-2-49-26-qn.qohx3fj21d.nbslx3djnbhf_$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$ https://c-7npsfqifvt0x24dofu4x2edctjtubujdx2edpn.g00.cnet.co... Best guess, they are saying, although my friend disabled all the options in this dialog, I was still able to grant third parties access to my contact list and my messages, which included my friends data - that makes sense to me: I can't use a chat app if half the messages you sent me are missing. In any case, we have to guess what really happened, because the New York Times can't be bothered to tell us.

wil421 8y ago

According to the Verge Apple had acces to data even if the user explicitly disabled data sharing. >Giving Apple access to users’ Facebook contacts and calendar entries, even if they had disabled data sharing, as part of a partnership that still exists.

miracle2k 8y ago
> According to the Verge Apple had acces to data even if the user explicitly disabled data sharing. First, the Verge article (https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18147616/facebook-user-data-giveaway-nyt-apple-amazon-spotify-netflix https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18147616/facebook-user-d...) did not do any original reporting, they are referencing the New York Times. This is another thing - people think stories have more weight and truth than they do because you've got a 100 publications writing about some other publications article. The New York Times article makes this claim, but does not explain what "explicitly disabling data sharing" means. Are they saying that I sign in to Spotify, I am asked to give access, I say no, but Spotify still gets the data? That would indeed be bad. It is unlikely this has happened. If this did happen, it would be worth a couple of words of explanation more, no? They are instead likely referring to this dialog: https://c-7npsfqifvt0x24dofu4x2edctjtubujdx2edpn.g00.cnet.com/g00/3_c-7x78x78x78.dofu.dpn_/c-7NPSFQIFVT0x24iuuqtx3ax2fx2fdofu4.dctjtubujd.dpnx2fjnhx2fDbIakrzwCx78x78-gApFjIbGLOf7ZJFx3dx2f681y1x2f3129x2f14x2f32x2f075d6d7g-cee3-53g9-c2e8-88795g023bf1x2ftdsffo-tipu-3129-14-31-bu-2-49-26-qn.qohx3fj21d.nbslx3djnbhf_$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$/$ https://c-7npsfqifvt0x24dofu4x2edctjtubujdx2edpn.g00.cnet.co... Best guess, they are saying, although my friend disabled all the options in this dialog, I was still able to grant third parties access to my contact list and my messages, which included my friends data - that makes sense to me: I can't use a chat app if half the messages you sent me are missing. In any case, we have to guess what really happened, because the New York Times can't be bothered to tell us.