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A rough timeline of the early 2000s: 1. Google creates the first noteworthy current gen search engine. 2. The web slowly starts moving towards a semantic plat

A rough timeline of the early 2000s: 1. Google creates the first noteworthy current gen search engine. 2. The web slowly starts moving towards a semantic platform with separate presentation. 3. Google creates the world's largest ad platform. 4. The semantic web inexplicably dies (see 3). 5. The web painfully and lossily becomes a series of dense monolithic networks. 6. People realize this might be a bad thing.

drivingmenuts 8y ago
> 6. People realize this might be a bad thing. 6. Technical experts realize this might be a bad thing, non-technical users are fine with it. Good or bad, monolithic networks save a lot of ordinary users the pain of having to learn. The reason they might not want to learn varies greatly, but I'll go out on a limb and say it's related to a lack of time and basic backgrounding, in equal measure. It's not always only about the technically qualified.
- Juliate 8y ago
  > 6. Technical experts realize this might be a bad thing, non-technical users are fine with it. Right. Tell that to the people that slowly come to the realization that their politic decisions and destiny have been heavily influenced through tools that built on and benefited from this very centralization. They are (and will be) very fine with it.
  - blancheneige 8y ago
    we're not talking about mainstream media here. ;)
    - Juliate 8y ago
      Facebook _is_ mainstream today, it's even more mainstream than newspapers and tv/radio news networks.
zozbot123 8y ago
> The semantic web inexplicably dies "Inexplicably" except for the fact that it doesn't actually work - outside purely charitable and socially-oriented efforts (e.g. Wikidata), there's no incentive for web sites to provide machine-readable, "semantic" information, and quite a bit of incentive not to. And Google didn't "create" the world's largest ad platform, either - they bought it (DoubleClick) and merged it with their technically-superior advertising offer.

drivingmenuts 8y ago

> 6. People realize this might be a bad thing. 6. Technical experts realize this might be a bad thing, non-technical users are fine with it. Good or bad, monolithic networks save a lot of ordinary users the pain of having to learn. The reason they might not want to learn varies greatly, but I'll go out on a limb and say it's related to a lack of time and basic backgrounding, in equal measure. It's not always only about the technically qualified.

Juliate 8y ago
> 6. Technical experts realize this might be a bad thing, non-technical users are fine with it. Right. Tell that to the people that slowly come to the realization that their politic decisions and destiny have been heavily influenced through tools that built on and benefited from this very centralization. They are (and will be) very fine with it.
- blancheneige 8y ago
  we're not talking about mainstream media here. ;)
  - Juliate 8y ago
    Facebook _is_ mainstream today, it's even more mainstream than newspapers and tv/radio news networks.

zozbot123 8y ago

> The semantic web inexplicably dies "Inexplicably" except for the fact that it doesn't actually work - outside purely charitable and socially-oriented efforts (e.g. Wikidata), there's no incentive for web sites to provide machine-readable, "semantic" information, and quite a bit of incentive not to. And Google didn't "create" the world's largest ad platform, either - they bought it (DoubleClick) and merged it with their technically-superior advertising offer.