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Totally agree about going to the self-hostable path. I would add as an alternative, looking for non-US products, maybe from neutral countries. As someone menti
by jimijazz 8y ago
Totally agree about going to the self-hostable path. I would add as an alternative, looking for non-US products, maybe from neutral countries.
As someone mentioned in the twitter thread, this could happen to any product: Google, Facebook, even taking the bus!
- debaserab2 8y agoNeutral countries? What’s a neutral country?
- C4stor 8y agoIt's Switzerland.
- jimijazz 8y agoyes. are there any Swiss technological developments? are there any other neutral countries?
- C4stor 8y agoSwitzerland hosts, among other things, the EFPL, which does a great deal of technlogical achievement. The EFPL itself leads the Scala language development, among a lof of other stuff ! I'm not familiar with other countries as neutral as Switzerland which has a successful track record of staying neutral during two world wars on their borders, but I suspect there should be actually quite some. I _think_ that for example Kazakhstan is currently trying to follow a similar neutral political path.
- CPLX 8y agoCosta Rica is another relevant example.
- Klover 8y agoWire is a Swiss Slack alternative that’s open source. Do note the comment close to this one mentioning that Switzerland would also have to comply with the sanctions.
- mirimir 8y agoProtonMail, maybe.
- alistairSH 8y agoSwitzerland?
- tmerse 8y agoSwitzerland
- Cthulhu_ 8y ago"Neutral" countries also have to conform to sanctions; Switzerland is mentioned a few times but "the sanctions regime in place is based on the Federal Act on the Implementation of International Sanctions" and "Does Switzerland implement UN sanctions? - Yes." https://sanctionsguide.eversheds-sutherland.com/countries/switzerland/ https://sanctionsguide.eversheds-sutherland.com/countries/sw... I get the impression that neutral in this case is being confused with some libertarian / anarchist / lawless utopia.
- jimijazz 8y agoInteresting, I didn't know that. I guess that makes the self hosted path the only safe and sustainable path for managing one's information.