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Seriously, Elon Musk? Are You Kidding Me with This Tunnel? What Is This?

9 points by smacktoward 8y ago

village-idiot 8y ago
Given that Elon Musk and Tesla are tied to each other at the hip, he cannot possibly admit the following: America's obsession with the car is a mistake that will need to be corrected in this century. I am not saying "ban all the cars". Cars are extremely useful tools. But America has been running on the implicit idea that everyone must own a car, and that all transport must be handled in a personally owned vehicle. This is both unsustainable ecologically, economically, and infrastructurally (I know that's not a word). Creating a "mass transit" system to drag personal cars around at 155mph to "solve" congestion is just a laughable half step that's clearly worse than doing nothing at all.
- A2017U1 8y ago
  Why is a private company responsible for the failings of government?
  - smt88 8y ago
    I have no idea how you read GP in a way that implied that Musk is responsible for the transportation issues in the US. They were just criticizing the idea that Musk has found a good, future-proof solution.
    - A2017U1 8y ago
      Compared to doing nothing at all it's seems like an improvement over the status quo. Very easy to criticise, but the simplicity of a road into the ground vs numerous subway stations/surrounding infrastructure is an order of magnitude different in terms of cost and time.
      - deleted 8y ago
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      - cimmanom 8y ago
        And yet a subway system can transport several orders of magnitude more people in the same space.
mwachs 8y ago
I tried posting the very critical The Concourse article about this (https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elon-musk-has-invented-the-world-1831210269 https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elo...) and it kept saying it was already posted even though there's no result for it. Does HN blacklist certain sites?
- smacktoward 8y ago
  Oh yes. Yes they do. Anything related to Gawker (which Deadspin is: see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadspin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadspin) has long been persona non grata around here.

9 points by smacktoward 8y ago

Given that Elon Musk and Tesla are tied to each other at the hip, he cannot possibly admit the following: America's obsession with the car is a mistake that will need to be corrected in this century. I am not saying "ban all the cars". Cars are extremely useful tools. But America has been running on the implicit idea that everyone must own a car, and that all transport must be handled in a personally owned vehicle. This is both unsustainable ecologically, economically, and infrastructurally (I know that's not a word). Creating a "mass transit" system to drag personal cars around at 155mph to "solve" congestion is just a laughable half step that's clearly worse than doing nothing at all.

A2017U1 8y ago
Why is a private company responsible for the failings of government?
- smt88 8y ago
  I have no idea how you read GP in a way that implied that Musk is responsible for the transportation issues in the US. They were just criticizing the idea that Musk has found a good, future-proof solution.
  - A2017U1 8y ago
    Compared to doing nothing at all it's seems like an improvement over the status quo. Very easy to criticise, but the simplicity of a road into the ground vs numerous subway stations/surrounding infrastructure is an order of magnitude different in terms of cost and time.
    - deleted 8y ago
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    - cimmanom 8y ago
      And yet a subway system can transport several orders of magnitude more people in the same space.

mwachs 8y ago

I tried posting the very critical The Concourse article about this (https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elon-musk-has-invented-the-world-1831210269 https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elo...) and it kept saying it was already posted even though there's no result for it. Does HN blacklist certain sites?

smacktoward 8y ago
Oh yes. Yes they do. Anything related to Gawker (which Deadspin is: see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadspin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadspin) has long been persona non grata around here.