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I still don't get it. Why do they need an incentive to not toss it in the garbage?

taborj 8y ago
Because a non-zero number of the drivers are scum?
gkoberger 8y ago
I did a bit of research, and found a bunch of people saying they just leave undelivered packages in their cars because they don't have time (desire?) to drive back to the warehouse 10-15 minutes away. I also couldn't find anything about anyone getting paid, so either the arrested guy was lying or it's something new they're trying? But if it's true, I'd say it's less of an incentive, and more of Amazon just compensating people who end up having to do more work. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/70m0gy/not_getting_paid_for_the_time_it_takes_to_return/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/70m0gy/n... https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/8f112d/whats_the_correct_way_to_return_a_package_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/8f112d/w...
- mediaman 8y ago
  It would seem that Amazon would just pay them to return to the warehouse with merchandise, rather than paying them for each package they don't deliver.
  - gkoberger 8y ago
    The only place I've seen the $5/package thing mentioned was a quote from the guy who was arrested, so I think we can take it with a grain of salt.
    - coleca 8y ago
      Given Amazon's razor thin margins, zeal for efficiency and cost consciousness, this seems to just be a suspect making up a story to try and get away with a crime.
    - philliphaydon 8y ago
      Not only that. Amazon is aware of which packages it’s given to a delivery driver. If he returned packages that weren’t given to him that’s a major red flag.
dgzl 8y ago
If it's between ditching the package and returning it for money, which would you pick? Maybe the contact says shippers only have to fulfill 99% of their shipments, and leftover items (think a reason that makes delivery impossible) can be abandoned or returned for a kickback.
- sokoloff 8y ago
  Do you really think Amazon is going to setup a system where only 99% of customers get their stuff? 1% of Amazon's retail sales is $2.5BB in a year.
  - dgzl 8y ago
    No, but that was just an example. What about 0.01%? I don't know much about Amazon's shipment model, but either this guy is telling the truth and there's a system in place, or he's lying. Either way wouldn't surprise me.

Because a non-zero number of the drivers are scum?

I did a bit of research, and found a bunch of people saying they just leave undelivered packages in their cars because they don't have time (desire?) to drive back to the warehouse 10-15 minutes away. I also couldn't find anything about anyone getting paid, so either the arrested guy was lying or it's something new they're trying? But if it's true, I'd say it's less of an incentive, and more of Amazon just compensating people who end up having to do more work. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/70m0gy/not_getting_paid_for_the_time_it_takes_to_return/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/70m0gy/n... https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/8f112d/whats_the_correct_way_to_return_a_package_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/8f112d/w...

mediaman 8y ago
It would seem that Amazon would just pay them to return to the warehouse with merchandise, rather than paying them for each package they don't deliver.
- gkoberger 8y ago
  The only place I've seen the $5/package thing mentioned was a quote from the guy who was arrested, so I think we can take it with a grain of salt.
  - coleca 8y ago
    Given Amazon's razor thin margins, zeal for efficiency and cost consciousness, this seems to just be a suspect making up a story to try and get away with a crime.
  - philliphaydon 8y ago
    Not only that. Amazon is aware of which packages it’s given to a delivery driver. If he returned packages that weren’t given to him that’s a major red flag.

dgzl 8y ago

If it's between ditching the package and returning it for money, which would you pick? Maybe the contact says shippers only have to fulfill 99% of their shipments, and leftover items (think a reason that makes delivery impossible) can be abandoned or returned for a kickback.

sokoloff 8y ago
Do you really think Amazon is going to setup a system where only 99% of customers get their stuff? 1% of Amazon's retail sales is $2.5BB in a year.
- dgzl 8y ago
  No, but that was just an example. What about 0.01%? I don't know much about Amazon's shipment model, but either this guy is telling the truth and there's a system in place, or he's lying. Either way wouldn't surprise me.