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Agreeable until the last sentence: > Of course the problem is that the US is such a big country with huge immigration and scandinavian countries arent so it's
by xixixao 8y ago
Agreeable until the last sentence:
> Of course the problem is that the US is such a big country with huge immigration and scandinavian countries arent so it's always hard to compare.
US Population: 325 million
US Immigration: 1.5 million (2016)
EU Population: 512 million
EU Immigration: 2 million (2016)
(taken from top Google results)
It's fairly accurate to say that, compared to the US, the whole of EU has a "Scandinavian" model of health-care (ie, states guarantee good health-care services to everyone).
- krupan 8y agoThere isn't a single EU health care system. Each country still does their own. Maybe each US state could do their own, but there are huge concerns about freeloader problems since we have unrestricted movement between states in the U.S. From what I've read the systems of European countries are being threatened by the freeloader problem that increase immigration as of late has caused.
- xixixao 8y agoThere is unrestricted movement in the Schengen area, which is a subset of 21+ states of EU for the past 10 years, with current population of 420 million people. (8+ state for the past 21 years, those 8 states having population of 291 million today) source wikipedia
- ThomPete 8y agoThat doesent mean the healtcare system is the same, its not. Again you probably need to do a little more studying of scandinavia and the EU cause you are getting some fundamentals pretty wrong.
- ThomPete 8y agoScandinavia is different than the rest of europe and they dont have 11 million illegal immigrants too. Belive me i know both places pretty intimately.
- ThomPete 8y agoHow on earth can can i get downvoted for saying what is true?
- fencepost 8y agoYou can get downvoted by sounding like a knee jerk racist. Go spend a little time looking into where healthcare money is actually being spent and written off as bad debt in the US then come back with numbers and sources. If you can back up that illegal immigrants are the source of healthcare cost issues in pretty sure we'll all be impressed.
- ThomPete 8y agoHuh? That's not what I said at all. I was explaining how the US system is very different than the Scandinavian system. That's all. You can't compare them at all. Whatever racist undertone you heard there was your doing not mine.
- fencepost 8y agoAny time you're in an online discussion of US healthcare expenses and use the phrase "11 million illegal immigrants" you've pretty much just placed yourself into a category as far as almost anyone else reading the discussion is concerned. That may not be what you meant to do and that categorization may not be fair, but it's one of many possible trigger phrases.
- ThomPete 8y agoIts pretty obvious to anyone who is not looking to get triggered that there is nothing racist nor fingerpointing in what i say. The illegal immigration is used to illustrate one of the things that make the us system wastely different especially from the scandinavian system even though they are always used as an example. Almost every person there is has lived their whole life there. And given i dont actually give you any other reason to think i am racist its pretty absurd that you decide to make that interpretation of what i say but unfortunately its becoming more and more the norm. Try asking me what i mean next time instead of just throwing words around accusing people you dont know anything about for being racist.