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Demis Hassabis (true) statements here would be much more credible if DeepMind wasn't currently making a mint by promoting AlphaZero to the masses as a "general
by mindgam3 8y ago
Demis Hassabis (true) statements here would be much more credible if DeepMind wasn't currently making a mint by promoting AlphaZero to the masses as a "general purpose artificial intelligence system".
Don't believe me? Check out this series of marketing videos on YouTube by GM Matthew Sadler.
1. “Hi, I’m GM Matthew Sadler, and in this series of videos we’re taking a look at new games between AlphaZero, DeepMind’s general purpose artificial intelligence system, and Stockfish” (1)
2. “Hi, I’m GM Matthew Sadler, and welcome to this review of the World Champinship match between Magnus Carlsen and Fabiano Caruana. And it’s a review with a difference, because we are taking a look at the games together with AlphaZero, DeepMind’s general purpose artificial intelligence system...” (2)
3. “Hi, I’m GM Matthew Sadler, and in this video we’ll be taking a look at a game between AlphaZero, DeepMind’s general purpose artificial intelligence system, and Stockfish” (3)
I could go on, but you get my point. Search youtube for "Sadler DeepMind" and you'll see all the rest. This is a script.
But wait, you say, that's just some random unaffiliated independent grandmaster who just happens to be using an inaccurate script on his own, no DeepMind connection at all! And to that I would say, check out this same random GM being quoted directly on DeepMind's blog waxing eloquently and rapturously about AlphaZero's incredible qualities. (4)
Let's be clear. I am in no way dismissing AlphaZero's truy remarkable abilities in both chess and other games like go and shogi. Nor do I have a problem with Demis Hassabis making headlines for stating the obvious about deep learning (that it's good at solving certain limited types of puzzles, but we are a long way from AGI, why is this controversial).
My problem is that Hassabis is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Increasing DeepMind/Google's value by many millions with his marketing message, while acting like he's not doing that. It feels intellectually dishonest.
To solve this, all DeepMind needs to stop instructing its Grandmaster mouthpieces to refer to AlphaZero as a "general articial intelligence system". Let's see how long that takes.
(1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-wFUdvKTVQ&t=0m10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-wFUdvKTVQ&t=0m10s
(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4T0_IoGQCE&t=0m05s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4T0_IoGQCE&t=0m05s
(3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS26Ct34YrQ&t=0m05s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS26Ct34YrQ&t=0m05s
(4) https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand-games-chess-shogi-and-go/ https://deepmind.com/blog/alphazero-shedding-new-light-grand...
- rozim 8y agoI suspect "general purpose artificial intelligence system" means the same architecture applied to 3 games (western Chess, Shogi, Go).
- mindgam3 8y agoWouldn't that be a "general purpose game-playing intelligence system" at best? (without mentioning that it only applies to certain types of perfect-information games) Maybe it's just me, but "general purpose artificial intelligence system" sounds like, well, General Artificial Intelligence. Which sounds like Artificial General Intelligence, which is the holy grail.
- balfirevic 8y ago> Maybe it's just me, but "general purpose artificial intelligence system" sounds like, well, General Artificial Intelligence. Well, it doesn't sound like that at all to me and I think the phrasing is fair. Also, it folds proteins.
- taneq 8y agoI don't think they mean the two in the same way. AlphaZero is "general purpose artificial intelligence" because if you formulate a problem in the right way and then throw a server cluster at it for a few weeks, it often comes back with pretty good performance at solving that problem. It's probably our current best crack at creating AGI, but it's a long way from a machine that can take a very high level goal and figure out the rest for itself, which is what we usually mean by "AGI" - not just a machine that answers multiple questions, but a thing analogous to a human mind which can analyse new things, infer properties and mechanics, generalise those to new contexts, and apply that knowledge to achieve new outcomes.
- mindgam3 8y ago“if you formulate a [very specific type of problem involving perfect information games] in the right way”