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Have you been to Portugal? The stigma of a heroin user is strong there. You know why? Because we don't want heroin users. I'm a libertarian. 100% in favor of
by towelr34dy 8y ago
Have you been to Portugal?
The stigma of a heroin user is strong there.
You know why? Because we don't want heroin users.
I'm a libertarian. 100% in favor of allowing people to own their own body (i.e. they can put in whatever they want)
Being fat isn't a crime.
There is no war on fatness.
There is simply a stigma.
A stigma to dissuade people. It works. It worked for me. I know other people who got their shit in gear because they were tired of not getting the respect they felt they deserve. I come from a hard background.
The Healthy while Fat is just an excuse to want to gain acceptance of unhealthy behavior.
No it won't work.
Sure, cigarette smokers come from shitty backgrounds (I was one). But getting looked down on was a major reason for me to quit.
Are there weak people who will forever smoke and feel bad?
Yes.
I have no answer for them.
But I know we can't start accpeting cigarette smokers. Or more people will smoke.
That is a totally different thing than using VIOLENCE to make it so someone can't access their vice.
I 100% support people engaging in vices.
I also think we should as a society be more accepting of vices.
Because they have good and bad. Some of the best chefs I've known are fat. Some of my favorite music was made on heroin.
- Jarb 8y agoMaybe I'm misreading what you wrote, but how do you societally accept a vice while at the same time stigmatizing it?
- towelr34dy 8y agoBecause we all have vices. Should we accept them openly and be proud of having vices? No. Should we be tolerant of other people's vices? Yes. Basically: having vices is bad, having vices doesn't make you bad. Vices should not be a source of pride. I would agree that the HAES movement does get at something that needs fixing: America dehumanizes people. It's hard to explain, but having lived in other countries, I can say there is a dehumanizing element here against those that are deemed less (druggies, ex-cons... and to a lesser extent those who are overweight)
- marricks 8y agoI too find the mantra of personal responsibility alluring but when people have been getting more and more obese you need to either accept people are getting “weaker” or the world is getting shittier, with larger ad campaigns for worse and worse food, etc.