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Most people in history were _not_ fat. It used to be _hard_ to be fat. Modern society and sedentary jobs make it harder to not be fat, so it takes discipline an

Most people in history were _not_ fat. It used to be _hard_ to be fat. Modern society and sedentary jobs make it harder to not be fat, so it takes discipline and hobbies like hiking and working out to actually get physical activity, and healthy diet is the key element. When everyone is eating processed food and doing very little during a typical day, it is hard to not be fat, but that doesn't mean we should accept that, we should push for a healthier society. There are things about lifespan, but also quality of life, ability to think, dealing with stress, _huge_ mental health effects, etc. Our entire society would improve if we decided to change things instead of giving up.

minikites 8y ago
How well is your strategy of "blaming individuals" working out? Should we blame them even harder to see if that works more often?
Navarr 8y ago
Obviously we should push for a healthier society, but that doesn't necessarily mean we should shame those who do not have a fit body size. Don't forget that in many circumstances cooking and hobbies like working out and hiking and such can be privileged. Someone working two jobs to get by probably doesn't have the funds for a gym membership or to go out hiking, and might not even have the mental energy to. And then cooking healthy food is surprisingly expensive and time consuming when compared to processed foods. So yes, absolutely, we should push for a healthier society, but at the same time we should accept that there are valid reasons someone might not be fit, and we shouldn't shame them for that. Instead, we should try to improve the situations that cause it as much as we can within our abilities.
- brobdingnagians 8y ago
  Not shaming, but that is a false dichotomy. I don't want to go around condemning people; I just don't think telling them everything is okay and letting them die young is a good idea. There are many other options to take; better education on the topic, better culture around work, better pay, better childhood involvement in activity, less videogames, etc. It isn't just a poverty issue and it is getting worse in all levels of society.
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minikites 8y ago

How well is your strategy of "blaming individuals" working out? Should we blame them even harder to see if that works more often?

Navarr 8y ago

Obviously we should push for a healthier society, but that doesn't necessarily mean we should shame those who do not have a fit body size. Don't forget that in many circumstances cooking and hobbies like working out and hiking and such can be privileged. Someone working two jobs to get by probably doesn't have the funds for a gym membership or to go out hiking, and might not even have the mental energy to. And then cooking healthy food is surprisingly expensive and time consuming when compared to processed foods. So yes, absolutely, we should push for a healthier society, but at the same time we should accept that there are valid reasons someone might not be fit, and we shouldn't shame them for that. Instead, we should try to improve the situations that cause it as much as we can within our abilities.

brobdingnagians 8y ago
Not shaming, but that is a false dichotomy. I don't want to go around condemning people; I just don't think telling them everything is okay and letting them die young is a good idea. There are many other options to take; better education on the topic, better culture around work, better pay, better childhood involvement in activity, less videogames, etc. It isn't just a poverty issue and it is getting worse in all levels of society.

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