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I was also going to mention Nespresso's pods. As far as I can see, they're just some vacuum packed grounds between two foil membranes. The amount contained seem

I was also going to mention Nespresso's pods. As far as I can see, they're just some vacuum packed grounds between two foil membranes. The amount contained seems a bit smaller than what's in an Aeropress scoop, but because of the square/cube law, the amount in an Aeropress scoop wouldn't be that much larger. What about an automated version of Aeropress that forced the same amount of hot water and hot air/steam through a Nespresso-like pod? It could have adjustable temperature and press times, and should make coffee indistinguishable from an Aeropress. This would eliminate the one disadvantage of the Aeropress: it's quite easy but not quite as convenient as putting in a pod and pressing a button.

steve19 8y ago
Are the third party refillable pods pretty much the same thing?
- stcredzero 8y ago
  You mean for Keurig like machines? Whatever happens with Keurig pods, there's a big difference in something that results in far inferior coffee. I've never played around with grinding my own and putting it in a refillable K-Cup pod, however. My experience in Tuscany in the mid 2000's, was that random corner store espresso wasn't bad or was pretty good and rarely had any bitterness. So if the pods are filled and sealed correctly, there should be a way of getting a result far superior to what Keurig machines typically yield.
  - steve19 8y ago
    Can confirm that a random corner store in Tuscany still yeilds good espresso, and I am still surprised by it. But that must be because Italians demand good espresso and everyone in Italy knows what good espresso tastes like.
    - stcredzero 8y ago
      Considering all the money and fuss that well heeled San Franciscans and SV people throw at coffee, the relative difference between them and ordinary people in Tuscany is pretty eyebrow raising. If one is really a smart and self-aware person, it pays to be aware of how clueless one can still be, especially if it has to do with cultural or sub-cultural knowledge. It's the ability to see beyond groupthink which is the actual "reality distortion field." It's actually the ability to see past the existing reality distortion fields, which is the key. Just how subject to groupthink are Bay Area folks? They are so subject to groupthink, they will spend lots of time and money for inferior product, in ignorance of cheaper, superior existing solutions.

steve19 8y ago

Are the third party refillable pods pretty much the same thing?

stcredzero 8y ago
You mean for Keurig like machines? Whatever happens with Keurig pods, there's a big difference in something that results in far inferior coffee. I've never played around with grinding my own and putting it in a refillable K-Cup pod, however. My experience in Tuscany in the mid 2000's, was that random corner store espresso wasn't bad or was pretty good and rarely had any bitterness. So if the pods are filled and sealed correctly, there should be a way of getting a result far superior to what Keurig machines typically yield.
- steve19 8y ago
  Can confirm that a random corner store in Tuscany still yeilds good espresso, and I am still surprised by it. But that must be because Italians demand good espresso and everyone in Italy knows what good espresso tastes like.
  - stcredzero 8y ago
    Considering all the money and fuss that well heeled San Franciscans and SV people throw at coffee, the relative difference between them and ordinary people in Tuscany is pretty eyebrow raising. If one is really a smart and self-aware person, it pays to be aware of how clueless one can still be, especially if it has to do with cultural or sub-cultural knowledge. It's the ability to see beyond groupthink which is the actual "reality distortion field." It's actually the ability to see past the existing reality distortion fields, which is the key. Just how subject to groupthink are Bay Area folks? They are so subject to groupthink, they will spend lots of time and money for inferior product, in ignorance of cheaper, superior existing solutions.