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Seems like there's one of these articles every week. "Goodbye {Postgres|Mongo|MySQL}, Hello {MySQL|Mongo|Postgres}"

by CyanLite2 8y ago

bdcravens 8y ago
When was the last "Goodbye X, Hello Mongo" article?
- StreamBright 8y ago
  Not sure, but there was Goodbye MySQL, Hello Postgres and Goodbye Postgres, Hello MySQL (same company did it actually) for sure. It is kind of weird why engineers are so obsessed with tools though.
  - bdcravens 8y ago
    > It is kind of weird why engineers are so obsessed with tools though. Would you say the same thing about programming languages? I was actually listening to the Full Stack Radio podcast, and the latest episode talked about the power of moving more into the database. What struck me as a strong idea was that we can't treat databases as equivalent - different database servers have different strengths (for example, some have better JSON support or time evaluation functions). I think it's particularly telling that you seem to be thinking of the database as a "tool", but if you're like most, you fight religious battles over your language of choice. In my experience, the database IS the application (and in many cases, the business) and is a far more important choice than the implementation language, the cloud provider, etc.
    - StreamBright 8y ago
      Look, how I see these things is that we have tools. Do you think that people working on fields would fight over which tractor brand is better? Probably not. Do you thinks that builders would fight over which hammer brand is better. I don't think so. These fights over minor differences are happening mostly in the software industry. Freud wrote a pretty good thesis about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_difference... Moving into databases is not something I understand. I worked the last 10 years as data engineer but I like to move out from databases a lot more than moving into them. :)
      - kstrauser 8y ago
        > Do you think that people working on fields would fight over which tractor brand is better? OMG yes. Having worked in the Midwest, I promise you that farmers absolutely do trash talk each other about John Deere vs New Holland vs International Harvester. Tell a Ford driver that you like his Chevy pickup and prepare to hear about it for the next hour. > Do you thinks that builders would fight over which hammer brand is better. You seriously haven't spent much time around blue collar workers, have you.
  - dguo 8y ago
    I believe you're thinking of Uber: https://www.percona.com/live/plam16/sessions/relational-databases-uber-mysql-postgres https://www.percona.com/live/plam16/sessions/relational-data...
  - philliphaydon 8y ago
    Oh which neither were recent. And their usage was just bizarre to begin with.
- h1d 8y ago
  2011 https://www.mongodb.com/presentations/mongodb-guardian https://www.mongodb.com/presentations/mongodb-guardian

Seems like there's one of these articles every week. "Goodbye {Postgres|Mongo|MySQL}, Hello {MySQL|Mongo|Postgres}"

bdcravens 8y ago

When was the last "Goodbye X, Hello Mongo" article?

StreamBright 8y ago
Not sure, but there was Goodbye MySQL, Hello Postgres and Goodbye Postgres, Hello MySQL (same company did it actually) for sure. It is kind of weird why engineers are so obsessed with tools though.
- bdcravens 8y ago
  > It is kind of weird why engineers are so obsessed with tools though. Would you say the same thing about programming languages? I was actually listening to the Full Stack Radio podcast, and the latest episode talked about the power of moving more into the database. What struck me as a strong idea was that we can't treat databases as equivalent - different database servers have different strengths (for example, some have better JSON support or time evaluation functions). I think it's particularly telling that you seem to be thinking of the database as a "tool", but if you're like most, you fight religious battles over your language of choice. In my experience, the database IS the application (and in many cases, the business) and is a far more important choice than the implementation language, the cloud provider, etc.
  - StreamBright 8y ago
    Look, how I see these things is that we have tools. Do you think that people working on fields would fight over which tractor brand is better? Probably not. Do you thinks that builders would fight over which hammer brand is better. I don't think so. These fights over minor differences are happening mostly in the software industry. Freud wrote a pretty good thesis about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_difference... Moving into databases is not something I understand. I worked the last 10 years as data engineer but I like to move out from databases a lot more than moving into them. :)
    - kstrauser 8y ago
      > Do you think that people working on fields would fight over which tractor brand is better? OMG yes. Having worked in the Midwest, I promise you that farmers absolutely do trash talk each other about John Deere vs New Holland vs International Harvester. Tell a Ford driver that you like his Chevy pickup and prepare to hear about it for the next hour. > Do you thinks that builders would fight over which hammer brand is better. You seriously haven't spent much time around blue collar workers, have you.
- dguo 8y ago
  I believe you're thinking of Uber: https://www.percona.com/live/plam16/sessions/relational-databases-uber-mysql-postgres https://www.percona.com/live/plam16/sessions/relational-data...
- philliphaydon 8y ago
  Oh which neither were recent. And their usage was just bizarre to begin with.
h1d 8y ago
2011 https://www.mongodb.com/presentations/mongodb-guardian https://www.mongodb.com/presentations/mongodb-guardian