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I spent 5 minutes going through your website, and am still confused about what you do. > Music Engine / AI at the service of Composers > The most ambitious co

by maximp 8y ago

I spent 5 minutes going through your website, and am still confused about what you do. > Music Engine / AI at the service of Composers > The most ambitious composers create memorable and uniquely personalized scores. Our Music Engine was built to scale and supercharge your creative process. This made me think that your tools would help me compose. However, the demos seem to show music just being created at the click of a button. Is this a tool for composers (and if so, how?) or a tool for users who'd otherwise go to stock music libraries?

pierreb-aiva 8y ago
Hi! I'm Pierre, one of AIVA's cofounders :) The tool we are developing is indeed aimed at composer. Have you seen this video which walks you through the interface? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuU3UI7iJSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuU3UI7iJSo Basically, you can select an influence (either stylistic, like Modern Cinematic, or using an existing piece of music), create a piece, and download the MIDI file generated by AIVA. The value we are trying to add for composers is by giving them an original, 2-3 minutes long theme in seconds, that they can modify however they want in their own creative workflow (Digital Audio Workstation or Notation program). You could think of this as a composition assistance that gives you a sketch, as opposed to starting out with a blank slate, and potentially having to face writer's block. FYI, our closed beta is going live in early January, and we'll be on-boarding new users on a regular basis from there. Hope that clarifies!
- neurotrace 8y ago
  I had a similar experience and seeing that video made things a lot more clear. I'd recommend putting that on your website. Anyway, looks like a great tool!
  - pierreb-aiva 8y ago
    Thanks for the feedback, we will improve the website’s presentation!
- zozbot123 8y ago
  > The value we are trying to add for composers is by giving them an original, 2-3 minutes long theme in seconds, that they can modify however they want I actually like this a lot compared to AIVA's most obvious competitor (Jukedeck). Jukedeck promises a finished product in seconds, and their output always ends up sounding really, really tacky as a result. And I actually mean that it sounds really, really tacky for royalty-free music, so that ought to tell y'all something! Now, say anything about AIVA's existing output, but tacky it is not. In fact, it seems to show quite a bit of the "true", weird, serendipitous creativity that also occurs in openly-available, verifiably end-to-end systems (and that makes their output musically interesting), so there's clearly some real achievement here.
  - pierreb-aiva 8y ago
    I think that’s a great summary of our competitive advantage. We spend a lot of time making sure that we get the right balance between quality, personalization and serendipity, to ensure that we’re actually helping composers write interesting music
- yellowapple 8y ago
  I kinda think this'd be useful the other way around; after coming up with a primary melody/theme/motif, I'd want to feed it into some sort of AI that automatically handles generating variations on that melody/theme/motif. I don't do as much composition as I'd like to anymore (mostly due to a lack of time and due to writer's block), but a lot of my writer's block doesn't come from the initial blank slate (I have no problem doodling about on an instrument or with my voice or on FLStudio/LMMS/Rosegarden/etc.) but rather from fleshing out ideas into full songs (I'm especially terrible at endings).

by maximp 8y ago

pierreb-aiva 8y ago

Hi! I'm Pierre, one of AIVA's cofounders :) The tool we are developing is indeed aimed at composer. Have you seen this video which walks you through the interface? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuU3UI7iJSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuU3UI7iJSo Basically, you can select an influence (either stylistic, like Modern Cinematic, or using an existing piece of music), create a piece, and download the MIDI file generated by AIVA. The value we are trying to add for composers is by giving them an original, 2-3 minutes long theme in seconds, that they can modify however they want in their own creative workflow (Digital Audio Workstation or Notation program). You could think of this as a composition assistance that gives you a sketch, as opposed to starting out with a blank slate, and potentially having to face writer's block. FYI, our closed beta is going live in early January, and we'll be on-boarding new users on a regular basis from there. Hope that clarifies!

neurotrace 8y ago
I had a similar experience and seeing that video made things a lot more clear. I'd recommend putting that on your website. Anyway, looks like a great tool!
- pierreb-aiva 8y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, we will improve the website’s presentation!
zozbot123 8y ago
> The value we are trying to add for composers is by giving them an original, 2-3 minutes long theme in seconds, that they can modify however they want I actually like this a lot compared to AIVA's most obvious competitor (Jukedeck). Jukedeck promises a finished product in seconds, and their output always ends up sounding really, really tacky as a result. And I actually mean that it sounds really, really tacky for royalty-free music, so that ought to tell y'all something! Now, say anything about AIVA's existing output, but tacky it is not. In fact, it seems to show quite a bit of the "true", weird, serendipitous creativity that also occurs in openly-available, verifiably end-to-end systems (and that makes their output musically interesting), so there's clearly some real achievement here.
- pierreb-aiva 8y ago
  I think that’s a great summary of our competitive advantage. We spend a lot of time making sure that we get the right balance between quality, personalization and serendipity, to ensure that we’re actually helping composers write interesting music
yellowapple 8y ago
I kinda think this'd be useful the other way around; after coming up with a primary melody/theme/motif, I'd want to feed it into some sort of AI that automatically handles generating variations on that melody/theme/motif. I don't do as much composition as I'd like to anymore (mostly due to a lack of time and due to writer's block), but a lot of my writer's block doesn't come from the initial blank slate (I have no problem doodling about on an instrument or with my voice or on FLStudio/LMMS/Rosegarden/etc.) but rather from fleshing out ideas into full songs (I'm especially terrible at endings).