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Helps to have millions of workers willing to work for pennies a day as well. edit: I guess that is redundant under unchecked eminent domain power.

by Varcht 8y ago

baby 8y ago
you mean waiters in the US?
- seandoe 8y ago
  Waiters and service industry people have done pretty well in every state I've lived in... minimum wage plus tips would equate to $20-$30/hr or more. But I could see it being tougher in states where the minimum wage is far less for service industry jobs.
  - cannonedhamster 8y ago
    Waiters and some service industries where tips are expected are not paid standard minimum wage typically. They are paid a separate, lower minimum wage which essentially pays the tax and are taxed on income expected even if they don't receive 15% tip.
    - barrow-rider 8y ago
      In VA that was $2.13/hr + tips, with tips to be declared at the end of the shift. Obviously, you could declare lower tips than what you made, but if the customers paid by credit cards then you could get nailed if/when you got audited; cash was a different story. If your hours + declared tips were less than minimum wage then they had to pay you minimum wage. That only happened at one large chain I worked at but not at the local, one-off places. Tips were large enough on weekends that it didn't matter much, or at least not enough to risk your job complaining. The locally run bars I worked at didn't care about tip ratios, but the corporate chains expected you to average 18% tips and would penalize you if you were pulling less than 13% for several weeks -- cuz it either meant you were absolutely terrible at your job, or else you were lying.
- lacksconfidence 8y ago
  Do you live in the us? It's only anecdata but I made about $40/hr in college waiting tables. It's not a bad job.
  - cannonedhamster 8y ago
    Entirely depends on where you are working and what place you're working for. $40/hr is a lot for most of the waiters I know and is significantly more than I made at approximately $10/hr. I'm personally supportive of just raising prices and paying people a standard wage, but those at the top end of the tipping industries tend to make a really solid take home pay.

Helps to have millions of workers willing to work for pennies a day as well. edit: I guess that is redundant under unchecked eminent domain power.

by Varcht 8y ago

Helps to have millions of workers willing to work for pennies a day as well. edit: I guess that is redundant under unchecked eminent domain power.

baby 8y ago

you mean waiters in the US?

seandoe 8y ago
Waiters and service industry people have done pretty well in every state I've lived in... minimum wage plus tips would equate to $20-$30/hr or more. But I could see it being tougher in states where the minimum wage is far less for service industry jobs.
- cannonedhamster 8y ago
  Waiters and some service industries where tips are expected are not paid standard minimum wage typically. They are paid a separate, lower minimum wage which essentially pays the tax and are taxed on income expected even if they don't receive 15% tip.
  - barrow-rider 8y ago
    In VA that was $2.13/hr + tips, with tips to be declared at the end of the shift. Obviously, you could declare lower tips than what you made, but if the customers paid by credit cards then you could get nailed if/when you got audited; cash was a different story. If your hours + declared tips were less than minimum wage then they had to pay you minimum wage. That only happened at one large chain I worked at but not at the local, one-off places. Tips were large enough on weekends that it didn't matter much, or at least not enough to risk your job complaining. The locally run bars I worked at didn't care about tip ratios, but the corporate chains expected you to average 18% tips and would penalize you if you were pulling less than 13% for several weeks -- cuz it either meant you were absolutely terrible at your job, or else you were lying.
lacksconfidence 8y ago
Do you live in the us? It's only anecdata but I made about $40/hr in college waiting tables. It's not a bad job.
- cannonedhamster 8y ago
  Entirely depends on where you are working and what place you're working for. $40/hr is a lot for most of the waiters I know and is significantly more than I made at approximately $10/hr. I'm personally supportive of just raising prices and paying people a standard wage, but those at the top end of the tipping industries tend to make a really solid take home pay.