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I read an article the other day about how juul modifies the nicotine to make it less painful so they can put more in each pod. An interesting side effect of thi

by snek 8y ago

I read an article the other day about how juul modifies the nicotine to make it less painful so they can put more in each pod. An interesting side effect of this is that people who don't smoke can start smoking easier because it's less painful. That information combined with this report just makes me so upset on so many levels...

wbronitsky 8y ago
Can you cite the article? I cannot find any reference to Juul modifying nicotine to make it more palatable.
- bgutierrez 8y ago
  To start, this advisory mentions nicotine salts in JUUL pods toward the top of page two.
- g45y45 8y ago
  Juul uses nicotine salts, where as standard vape juice is just freebase nicotine. The salts are said to be 'milder' or easier to consume. In the US, vape juice comes in 0, 3 and 6mg/mL doses. Juul does not publish nic levels, but its probably closer to 48+mg/mL.
  - mcguire 8y ago
    Most vape liquids I've seen come in 0-24 mg/ml (in 6mg increments, except for 3).
- snek 8y ago
  Apologies, i'm unable to find the article i read before, but googling "nicotine salts" should get you on the right path.
crushcrashcrush 8y ago
Correct. They have proprietary technology around nicotine salts.
013a 8y ago
That's not the whole story. Juuls are ultra high resistance devices due to their size. Generally that means they can't vaporize as much liquid into vapor, which means traditional eliquid (lets say 3-9mg/ml) isn't as effective anymore, especially for someone trying to quit smoking. Going anywhere above 12mg/ml with traditional eliquid production techniques produces a liquid that is very harsh. So, here are your business requirements: You've got a device that is high resistance. You want high nicotine content because your primary market is ex-cigarette smokers. You can't use traditional eliquid because it would result in a harsh experience, which reduces the probability of cigarette smokers quitting and using your product. So you invent something new.

by snek 8y ago

wbronitsky 8y ago

Can you cite the article? I cannot find any reference to Juul modifying nicotine to make it more palatable.

bgutierrez 8y ago
To start, this advisory mentions nicotine salts in JUUL pods toward the top of page two.
g45y45 8y ago
Juul uses nicotine salts, where as standard vape juice is just freebase nicotine. The salts are said to be 'milder' or easier to consume. In the US, vape juice comes in 0, 3 and 6mg/mL doses. Juul does not publish nic levels, but its probably closer to 48+mg/mL.
- mcguire 8y ago
  Most vape liquids I've seen come in 0-24 mg/ml (in 6mg increments, except for 3).
snek 8y ago
Apologies, i'm unable to find the article i read before, but googling "nicotine salts" should get you on the right path.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago

Correct. They have proprietary technology around nicotine salts.

013a 8y ago

That's not the whole story. Juuls are ultra high resistance devices due to their size. Generally that means they can't vaporize as much liquid into vapor, which means traditional eliquid (lets say 3-9mg/ml) isn't as effective anymore, especially for someone trying to quit smoking. Going anywhere above 12mg/ml with traditional eliquid production techniques produces a liquid that is very harsh. So, here are your business requirements: You've got a device that is high resistance. You want high nicotine content because your primary market is ex-cigarette smokers. You can't use traditional eliquid because it would result in a harsh experience, which reduces the probability of cigarette smokers quitting and using your product. So you invent something new.