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I jumped from a Turris Omnia to Unifi kit after the Turris broke during an update (sorry, I need my stuff to work all the time). Funnily enough I miss it, but t

I jumped from a Turris Omnia to Unifi kit after the Turris broke during an update (sorry, I need my stuff to work all the time). Funnily enough I miss it, but the decision to use knot as the resolver is very, very strange. The Omnia is based on the Espressobin, which is also worth looking at.

petee 8y ago
Having a diverse set of DNS software is a great thing, I'm not sure why you think that's strange. Why have every single router vulnerable to the next BIND bug?
- Fnoord 8y ago
  BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.
  - LinuxBender 8y ago
    Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
    - fanf2 8y ago
      BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613 https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613
      - LinuxBender 8y ago
        Oh wow, I wonder who convinced them to consider it. Nice!
  - walrus01 8y ago
    > Who still uses that? The top 100 largest ISPs in the world, as measured by CAIDA ASRANK.
detaro 8y ago
Why is it strange for cznic to use a resolver they developed in their product? Does it have problems on that hardware?
xellisx 8y ago
I still have mine, but the software didn't support the IPv6 mode I needed (6rd) and ended up getting an ASUS RT-AC3200.
- akerro 8y ago
  Turris supports ipv6 out of box, unless I misunderstood your comment?
  - xellisx 8y ago
    When I tried, it supported IPv6 on static and some other modes, but not the 6RD mode, which ATT uses.
akerro 8y ago
It never broke for me, but my update config allows installing update a week after it was published, so I get probably more polished packages. Omnia also has command `schnapps` which allows to take snapshots of / and rollback system after failed updates/experiments.
AndyMcConachie 8y ago
I don't like that cz.nic decided to make something so different than vanilla OpenWRT. I use my Turris Omnia with vanilla OpenWRT and it kinda works. I still have an issue with /dev/urandom failing to return anything that I'm working on. In general I don't understand why so many commercialized open source products end up forking an OSS project and then reinventing the wheel so much. The Turris folks wrote a lot of code and spent a lot of effort that they could have used to better the OpenWRT project and I don't really understand why. I doubt I'll buy another product from cz.nic again.
- lbeltrame 8y ago
  > I don't like that cz.nic decided to make something so different than vanilla OpenWRT. They said it so themselves. When TurrisOS was made (don't forget that it also runs on the older Turris routers), openWRT was stagnating (that was before LEDE came to life) and there were no clear indications on what it would happen. The version 4 is going to be rebased on the latest OpenWRT, and for MOX a lot of things are being pushed upstream (so I'm being told). Not affiliated with cz.nic in any way, but I am an Omnia owner.
spherelot 8y ago
Mine has worked almost flawlessly since I got it 2 years ago. I have not had a single problem that a simple reboot has not fixed. The only bad thing in the device was the thingies where you screw the antennas. In my router they were somehow loose and I had to open the router case to tighten them. Otherwise I could not have been happier that I bought mine. The turris team actually started another kickstarter project last summer: https://mox.turris.cz/en/overview/ https://mox.turris.cz/en/overview/ I instantly backed that project too. Not because I needed a new router, but because I have a soft spot for any Open Source / Open Hardware projects and I wanted to support them.

petee 8y ago

Having a diverse set of DNS software is a great thing, I'm not sure why you think that's strange. Why have every single router vulnerable to the next BIND bug?

Fnoord 8y ago
BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.
- LinuxBender 8y ago
  Bind is still very heavily used. Dnsmasq is popular in many of the container deployment models. I love Unbound, and hope that it gains more popularity. ISC (Bind) refuses to implement the min-ttl feature of Unbound. Unbound has better query (request and response) logging than Bind.
  - fanf2 8y ago
    BIND 9.14 will have min-cache-ttl and min-ncache-ttl options https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613 https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/issues/613
    - LinuxBender 8y ago
      Oh wow, I wonder who convinced them to consider it. Nice!
- walrus01 8y ago
  > Who still uses that? The top 100 largest ISPs in the world, as measured by CAIDA ASRANK.

detaro 8y ago

Why is it strange for cznic to use a resolver they developed in their product? Does it have problems on that hardware?

xellisx 8y ago

I still have mine, but the software didn't support the IPv6 mode I needed (6rd) and ended up getting an ASUS RT-AC3200.

akerro 8y ago
Turris supports ipv6 out of box, unless I misunderstood your comment?
- xellisx 8y ago
  When I tried, it supported IPv6 on static and some other modes, but not the 6RD mode, which ATT uses.

akerro 8y ago

It never broke for me, but my update config allows installing update a week after it was published, so I get probably more polished packages. Omnia also has command `schnapps` which allows to take snapshots of / and rollback system after failed updates/experiments.

AndyMcConachie 8y ago

I don't like that cz.nic decided to make something so different than vanilla OpenWRT. I use my Turris Omnia with vanilla OpenWRT and it kinda works. I still have an issue with /dev/urandom failing to return anything that I'm working on. In general I don't understand why so many commercialized open source products end up forking an OSS project and then reinventing the wheel so much. The Turris folks wrote a lot of code and spent a lot of effort that they could have used to better the OpenWRT project and I don't really understand why. I doubt I'll buy another product from cz.nic again.

lbeltrame 8y ago
> I don't like that cz.nic decided to make something so different than vanilla OpenWRT. They said it so themselves. When TurrisOS was made (don't forget that it also runs on the older Turris routers), openWRT was stagnating (that was before LEDE came to life) and there were no clear indications on what it would happen. The version 4 is going to be rebased on the latest OpenWRT, and for MOX a lot of things are being pushed upstream (so I'm being told). Not affiliated with cz.nic in any way, but I am an Omnia owner.

spherelot 8y ago

Mine has worked almost flawlessly since I got it 2 years ago. I have not had a single problem that a simple reboot has not fixed. The only bad thing in the device was the thingies where you screw the antennas. In my router they were somehow loose and I had to open the router case to tighten them. Otherwise I could not have been happier that I bought mine. The turris team actually started another kickstarter project last summer: https://mox.turris.cz/en/overview/ https://mox.turris.cz/en/overview/ I instantly backed that project too. Not because I needed a new router, but because I have a soft spot for any Open Source / Open Hardware projects and I wanted to support them.