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Apple's Self-Destructive Qualcomm, China Strategies

10 points by Down_n_Out 8y ago

shanghaiaway 8y ago
What a weird post
- bassman9000 8y ago
  So it wasn't only me. The whole parallel with Trump is ridiculous. With all the reasons to bash the administration, this sounds like a 12yo rant, for the sake of bashing.
- dangus 8y ago
  It's weird because it's Rob Enderle.
- doe88 8y ago
  This. Since this article https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/technology/definers-public-affairs-tim-miller.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/technology/definers-publi... I'm really cautious about what I read on this kerfuffle. I remember few months ago before knowing there was an ongoing PR campaign suddenly observing some articles moaning about the lack of speed of baseband chips used in iphones and the superiority of Qualcomm's ones.
votepaunchy 8y ago
There are a lot of words here with not much sense. This isn't just Apple v Qualcomm. Four of the major tech manufacturers (Hon Hai Precision Industry, Pegatron, Wistron, and Compal) are also suing [0] Qualcomm for $9 billion, which may be tripled to $27 billion. "The group's complaint is that Qualcomm charges for chips used in manufacturing, but then requires a patent royalty on top, which the firms believe is an anticompetitive business practice. While the firms collectively demand $9 billion from Qualcomm in damages if the payments are deemed illegal, there is also a possibility of the figure tripling if antitrust claims in the suit also succeed." [0] https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/12/17/apple-manufacturer-foxconn-not-negotiating-with-qualcomm-over-9b-royalties-dispute https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/12/17/apple-manufacture...
threatofrain 8y ago
The incidental quips about President Trump were so bizarre and forced I thought the article was generated by a bot.
mcphage 8y ago
> It's because Apple uses a lock-in strategy, where once on an Apple platform it is painful to get off. Most of the smart Apple iPhone users I know actually use Google apps and Google's infrastructure and other third-party tools on their iPhones, so if they want to move to an Android phone they can move almost seamlessly. ...what? Sentence 1, "once on Apple it's painful to get off." The very next sentence, the author says that most iPhone people he knows could move to Android almost seamlessly. That doesn't sound like it's that painful to get off. Look, if you're going to contradict yourself, fine, just... put a few sentences in between first.
- Down_n_Out 8y ago
  I'm glad others found this post so weird, happened to follow some links and found it, felt like I really fell into the rabbithole. I thought it was translated from some other language but I'm not a native English speaker myself so.
  - mcphage 8y ago
    > I thought it was translated from some other language but I'm not a native English speaker myself so. Nah, turns out it was written by Rob Enderle. He's been writing really bad tech articles for... a while. Because you're right, it really was bizarre.
- mamcx 8y ago
  Is interesting how "Apple uses a lock-in strategy" because is up-front about using a single App Store and not allow (easily) pirate apps and simple ways to put shady apps(even from manufacturers) to users. But Google what? Is even more lock-in! I'm on Apple from years and I still locked to google in ways I can't undo (without heavy complications) yet get rid of Apple is as easy as buy a windows or linux machine (or android), that will only tied my to google!
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jtthe13 8y ago
Former industry analyst here. The article felt like a poorly written businesses school assignment. Then I checked the author and it made sense. Enderle is a click-baiting joke. Moving on.

10 points by Down_n_Out 8y ago

shanghaiaway 8y ago

What a weird post

bassman9000 8y ago
So it wasn't only me. The whole parallel with Trump is ridiculous. With all the reasons to bash the administration, this sounds like a 12yo rant, for the sake of bashing.
dangus 8y ago
It's weird because it's Rob Enderle.
doe88 8y ago
This. Since this article https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/technology/definers-public-affairs-tim-miller.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/technology/definers-publi... I'm really cautious about what I read on this kerfuffle. I remember few months ago before knowing there was an ongoing PR campaign suddenly observing some articles moaning about the lack of speed of baseband chips used in iphones and the superiority of Qualcomm's ones.

votepaunchy 8y ago

There are a lot of words here with not much sense. This isn't just Apple v Qualcomm. Four of the major tech manufacturers (Hon Hai Precision Industry, Pegatron, Wistron, and Compal) are also suing [0] Qualcomm for $9 billion, which may be tripled to $27 billion. "The group's complaint is that Qualcomm charges for chips used in manufacturing, but then requires a patent royalty on top, which the firms believe is an anticompetitive business practice. While the firms collectively demand $9 billion from Qualcomm in damages if the payments are deemed illegal, there is also a possibility of the figure tripling if antitrust claims in the suit also succeed." [0] https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/12/17/apple-manufacturer-foxconn-not-negotiating-with-qualcomm-over-9b-royalties-dispute https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/12/17/apple-manufacture...

threatofrain 8y ago

The incidental quips about President Trump were so bizarre and forced I thought the article was generated by a bot.

mcphage 8y ago

> It's because Apple uses a lock-in strategy, where once on an Apple platform it is painful to get off. Most of the smart Apple iPhone users I know actually use Google apps and Google's infrastructure and other third-party tools on their iPhones, so if they want to move to an Android phone they can move almost seamlessly. ...what? Sentence 1, "once on Apple it's painful to get off." The very next sentence, the author says that most iPhone people he knows could move to Android almost seamlessly. That doesn't sound like it's that painful to get off. Look, if you're going to contradict yourself, fine, just... put a few sentences in between first.

Down_n_Out 8y ago
I'm glad others found this post so weird, happened to follow some links and found it, felt like I really fell into the rabbithole. I thought it was translated from some other language but I'm not a native English speaker myself so.
- mcphage 8y ago
  > I thought it was translated from some other language but I'm not a native English speaker myself so. Nah, turns out it was written by Rob Enderle. He's been writing really bad tech articles for... a while. Because you're right, it really was bizarre.
mamcx 8y ago
Is interesting how "Apple uses a lock-in strategy" because is up-front about using a single App Store and not allow (easily) pirate apps and simple ways to put shady apps(even from manufacturers) to users. But Google what? Is even more lock-in! I'm on Apple from years and I still locked to google in ways I can't undo (without heavy complications) yet get rid of Apple is as easy as buy a windows or linux machine (or android), that will only tied my to google!

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jtthe13 8y ago

Former industry analyst here. The article felt like a poorly written businesses school assignment. Then I checked the author and it made sense. Enderle is a click-baiting joke. Moving on.