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>this feature ships with Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise. No need to download a VHD! Swing and a miss. It's interesting how Microsoft will force their slow AV on
by devwastaken 8y ago
>this feature ships with Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise. No need to download a VHD!
Swing and a miss. It's interesting how Microsoft will force their slow AV onto every win10 home edition device, yet won't give actual tools users can protect themselves with.
- voltagex_ 8y agoI've found Defender to be a definite performance hit but what's a better option? I'd rather not have the subscription costs.
- Semaphor 8y agoNot running a tool that makes your attack surface bigger in exchange for questionable benefits?
- crazysim 8y agoThey've put Defender into a sandbox nowadays. https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/microsoftsecure/2018/10/26/windows-defender-antivirus-can-now-run-in-a-sandbox/ https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/microsoftsecure/2018/10/26/...
- Semaphor 8y agoInsider only for now. But a very good move imo.
- voltagex_ 8y agoOkay, even if I take your comment about attack surface at face value, what are you suggesting? Surely not avoiding AV completely.
- Semaphor 8y ago> Surely not avoiding AV completely. Exactly that.
- voltagex_ 8y agoOk, what about for the 99% of the population that that won't work for?
- Semaphor 8y agoWell, I'm recommending it on HN, not on Facebook ;)
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y agoUse ChromeOS, Android, or iOS. Seriously, AV is pointless software. It will false-positive often, it will false-negative slightly less often, and it will introduce a performance degradation 100% of the time regardless. It is a bad solution to the problem of malware.
- the8472 8y agoYou could use an AV but only run offline scans on a schedule.
- pjmlp 8y agoPower users get Pro, typical home users think that sandboxes are children playgrounds.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoI'd argue that typical home users are the people who need this feature the most.
- pjmlp 8y agoAnd I would argue they are better off with Windows S mode.
- jake_the_third 8y agoTell that to my father who still uses decades-old software. I agree with the gp, Windows Home users need this feature the most. Folks who don't mind Windows S would already be using android/ios.
- WorldMaker 8y ago"S Mode" (as opposed to Windows S which was briefly a separate SKU) in current builds of Windows 10 (Home/Pro/Enterprise) is now arbitrarily admin activatable/deactivatable. As your father's admin (assumedly in this example) you deactivate S Mode, install all the old apps, then reactivate S Mode. Your father still gets access to the old apps, and can install new apps from the Windows Store [1] without your involvement as admin. You just have switch it out of S Mode if your father finds another old CD or floppy behind the couch to (re-)install. [1] I don't recall if S Mode currently allows sideloading non-Store but code-signed APPX/MSIX packages. I think it is supposed to? But I think my confusion is that it may differ (at least currently) between Windows Home in S Mode and Windows Enterprise in S Mode.
- lostmsu 8y agoI don't think you can launch non-signed apps when S Mode is on. Does not matter, if you installed them when it was off.