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Who is we? Ever since they came about, professionals we're screaming these were untested, that nicotine is a deadly chemical, and that they had no oversight. I
by axaxs 8y ago
Who is we? Ever since they came about, professionals we're screaming these were untested, that nicotine is a deadly chemical, and that they had no oversight. I know of no person with relevant credentials who deemed them safe or advocated them as a safe alternative to cigarettes.
- tptacek 8y agoNicotine is a "deadly chemical"?
- axaxs 8y agoBy the definitions of deadly, and chemical, absolutely. Do you feel otherwise?
- tptacek 8y agoI think, pretty obviously, the subtext here is that the LD50 of nicotine is a red herring, having little (at least epidemiologically) to do with the supposed hazards of vaping. Acetaminophen is also highly toxic --- unlike nicotine, the therapeutic dose is apparently right up on the toxic threshold. Tylenol kills at least 400 people every year, doubtless an order of magnitude (if not two) more than nicotine.
- barry-cotter 8y agoYou mean like water? You drink enough and you’ll definitely die.
- ablation 8y ago60mg of nicotine is lethal for a human weighing 150 pounds[0]. You're presenting a strawman argument by comparing it to water. [0]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3880486/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3880486/
- mattsfrey 8y agoyes, it's an extremely effective poison and kills at very low doses
- adrianN 8y agoIt literally is a pesticide.
- tptacek 8y agoSo is canola oil.
- adrianN 8y agoBut for one of them the LD50 is measured in milligrams.
- tptacek 8y agoSo is the LD50 of caffeine. People actually die from fatal overdoses of it. How many people die annually from acute nicotine toxicity?
- sambull 8y agoWater is also, a women died in my city from drinking water in a game called 'hold you pee for a wii' [0], also see [1]. [0] http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16614865/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-dies-after-water-drinking-contest/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16614865/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-d... [1]https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/drowning https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/drowning
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- danieltillett 8y agoEveryone who is older than a teenager.