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So, if you are being robbed, you would rather that the police wait a few blocks away?

by apostacy 8y ago

darkerside 8y ago
I'd rather nothing bad happen to anyone ever, given the option.
- apostacy 8y ago
  Sure, we'd all like nothing bad to ever happen. But, if you were being attacked by someone, would you prefer that the police "de-escalate" things by not engaging your attackers, or would you want them to come in "guns blazing"? You have to pick one or the other. Life doesn't give you a convenient third option.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > But, if you were being attacked by someone, would you prefer that the police "de-escalate" things by not engaging your attackers, or would you want them to come in "guns blazing"? You have to pick one or the other. Life doesn't give you a convenient third option. De-escalation is still active engagement; there is, in fact, a third option, and it was demonstrated in Parkland.
  - darkerside 8y ago
    If they can walk over and deescalate, then of course I want them to deescalate. This isn't an action movie. Once bullets start flying, my odds of survival are likely going down, not up. Do you think a policeman's job is to be a hero, or a public servant? Because I think they should be public servants. If one shows heroism while in the line of duty, it's because he is a hero and a good person. Not because of a paycheck and a badge.
    - apostacy 8y ago
      These are just platitudes about "heroes" and "public servants". I want police that are effective. If someone is threatening you with a weapon, you had better hope that there is at least one other weapon in this situation. Well trained police that frequently go to the shooting range and are highly trained and experienced can be highly effective at minimizing harm in areas where criminals are well armed. There is ample data from real life. It is sad that we have to apply policing methodologies that are effective in places like South Africa or Brazil, but this is the country we live in now.
      - darkerside 8y ago
        Not sure what country you live in, but fortunately I can afford to live in a part of the US where that is not characteristic. And I'd much rather my local police not come in firing like the A Team, thanks.

So, if you are being robbed, you would rather that the police wait a few blocks away?

darkerside 8y ago

I'd rather nothing bad happen to anyone ever, given the option.

apostacy 8y ago
Sure, we'd all like nothing bad to ever happen. But, if you were being attacked by someone, would you prefer that the police "de-escalate" things by not engaging your attackers, or would you want them to come in "guns blazing"? You have to pick one or the other. Life doesn't give you a convenient third option.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > But, if you were being attacked by someone, would you prefer that the police "de-escalate" things by not engaging your attackers, or would you want them to come in "guns blazing"? You have to pick one or the other. Life doesn't give you a convenient third option. De-escalation is still active engagement; there is, in fact, a third option, and it was demonstrated in Parkland.
- darkerside 8y ago
  If they can walk over and deescalate, then of course I want them to deescalate. This isn't an action movie. Once bullets start flying, my odds of survival are likely going down, not up. Do you think a policeman's job is to be a hero, or a public servant? Because I think they should be public servants. If one shows heroism while in the line of duty, it's because he is a hero and a good person. Not because of a paycheck and a badge.
  - apostacy 8y ago
    These are just platitudes about "heroes" and "public servants". I want police that are effective. If someone is threatening you with a weapon, you had better hope that there is at least one other weapon in this situation. Well trained police that frequently go to the shooting range and are highly trained and experienced can be highly effective at minimizing harm in areas where criminals are well armed. There is ample data from real life. It is sad that we have to apply policing methodologies that are effective in places like South Africa or Brazil, but this is the country we live in now.
    - darkerside 8y ago
      Not sure what country you live in, but fortunately I can afford to live in a part of the US where that is not characteristic. And I'd much rather my local police not come in firing like the A Team, thanks.