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The "correct" side is defined by the principles espoused. It's impossible to honestly not conflate the two. This is not about political fairness as though every

by Retra 8y ago

The "correct" side is defined by the principles espoused. It's impossible to honestly not conflate the two. This is not about political fairness as though every political party is entitled to rule equally independent of what their platform is. Deceit is the Republican Party's brand. Of course there will be an outcry if they win under that banner. Nobody would care if they lost under it.

chillacy 8y ago
Why is deceit the republican brand? Seems like a fairly partisan statement.
- Retra 8y ago
  Any statement other than "all parties are identical" is partisan. It's not a problem to say that they stand for different things. That's the whole point of them. Deceit is the Republican Brand for the same reason the color red and elephants are the Republican Brand: they regularly use it to identify themselves.
  - chillacy 8y ago
    I’m not even republican but that seems like an insane statement, for reasonable interpretations of “deceit” and “represents”. Like, is this on their website or are you labeling it? To be charitable let’s say you’re reading between the lines. Is this like people claiming the democrats stand for “welfare queens and social decay”?
    - Retra 8y ago
      Insane is an overstatement, don't you think? Let's not nitpick vocabulary and miss the point. If Clinton won the election using Facebook's data, Republicans (who see democrats as deceitful) would be outraged at that deception leading to an election win. So the idea that this is a Democrat-driven manufactured partisan outrage is misleading -- it is outrage based on the perceived unfairness of using deceit to win elections. You don't need to read between the lines to see Republicans as deceitful. Trump (and pretty much his whole campaign team apparently) have been lying nearly constantly for the last two years. That's why it's their brand: the deceitful in a very public way. You don't have to read between the lines. It's written right on the lines. If you're instead looking for the truth to be dictated by their website or something, I don't know what to tell you.

by Retra 8y ago

chillacy 8y ago

Why is deceit the republican brand? Seems like a fairly partisan statement.

Retra 8y ago
Any statement other than "all parties are identical" is partisan. It's not a problem to say that they stand for different things. That's the whole point of them. Deceit is the Republican Brand for the same reason the color red and elephants are the Republican Brand: they regularly use it to identify themselves.
- chillacy 8y ago
  I’m not even republican but that seems like an insane statement, for reasonable interpretations of “deceit” and “represents”. Like, is this on their website or are you labeling it? To be charitable let’s say you’re reading between the lines. Is this like people claiming the democrats stand for “welfare queens and social decay”?
  - Retra 8y ago
    Insane is an overstatement, don't you think? Let's not nitpick vocabulary and miss the point. If Clinton won the election using Facebook's data, Republicans (who see democrats as deceitful) would be outraged at that deception leading to an election win. So the idea that this is a Democrat-driven manufactured partisan outrage is misleading -- it is outrage based on the perceived unfairness of using deceit to win elections. You don't need to read between the lines to see Republicans as deceitful. Trump (and pretty much his whole campaign team apparently) have been lying nearly constantly for the last two years. That's why it's their brand: the deceitful in a very public way. You don't have to read between the lines. It's written right on the lines. If you're instead looking for the truth to be dictated by their website or something, I don't know what to tell you.