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The far-left has been getting more extreme over the last few years, probably largely due to "trump derangement syndrome". I care very deeply about fundamental

The far-left has been getting more extreme over the last few years, probably largely due to "trump derangement syndrome". I care very deeply about fundamental human rights such as free speech. Many people do not seem to understand what free speech is. I also care about due process and putting people before a jury of their peers. The witch hunting needs to stop. I'd consider myself moderate right. I used to lean to the left, but there is no way I can associate myself with what the left has become.

diminoten 8y ago
I guess my point in all this is that it's hard to mesh practicality (not having your startup fail) with ideology (not suppressing people's human right to free speech). I'm with you on free speech, but I also don't know what I'd do if I were in Twitter/Reddit's shoes, because I don't think "do nothing and let the hatred continue" is viable (both from a business and kindness perspective), but I also don't think suppressing it is morally justified.
- sparkie 8y ago
  Most of the hate is coming from the left, but this is "acceptable hate" if is directed at white/straight/christian/men, or other bogeyman they can come up with to justify their eternal victimhood. The divisions are only getting wider, and it is helpful to neither side. When people say racism is on the rise, they couldn't be more correct. White-racism is on the rise, and tolerated. The increase in white supremacists I see as largely a reaction to this. I'm not a selective racist and I despise racism in all of its forms. Sexism too. Sexism against men is also very real, especially in tech. A diversity quota is a sexism quota. A person's gender should not factor into a hiring decision at all.
  - diminoten 8y ago
    I think you're stark raving mad if you believe the left is responsible for the hatred going on in the world right now, but it's honestly not important where it's coming from so much as the fact that it's very hard to start a new social media website right now, because you're immediately hit with questions about where you stand on free speech, in a way that Reddit and Twitter (and others) never had to deal with. Every new social media company is basically planting their flag very far in one direction or another (either blocking hate speech or leaning in entirely).
    - sparkie 8y ago
      The left are creating divisions that don't exist anymore. That were solved decades ago. It has gone from "equality for all" to "more equality to those who didn't have the same equality in the past." It is complete lunacy. The best thing for people to do is reject both this idiocy, and the idiocy of the far-right which wants to revert things back to the old way. This is what the people in the IDW are aiming to achieve - to bring people back to having discourse rather than bickering and widening the polarisation. We have racists and sexists on both the left and right. We need to denounce racism and sexism in all of their forms, else the problem is only going to increase

diminoten 8y ago

I guess my point in all this is that it's hard to mesh practicality (not having your startup fail) with ideology (not suppressing people's human right to free speech). I'm with you on free speech, but I also don't know what I'd do if I were in Twitter/Reddit's shoes, because I don't think "do nothing and let the hatred continue" is viable (both from a business and kindness perspective), but I also don't think suppressing it is morally justified.

sparkie 8y ago
Most of the hate is coming from the left, but this is "acceptable hate" if is directed at white/straight/christian/men, or other bogeyman they can come up with to justify their eternal victimhood. The divisions are only getting wider, and it is helpful to neither side. When people say racism is on the rise, they couldn't be more correct. White-racism is on the rise, and tolerated. The increase in white supremacists I see as largely a reaction to this. I'm not a selective racist and I despise racism in all of its forms. Sexism too. Sexism against men is also very real, especially in tech. A diversity quota is a sexism quota. A person's gender should not factor into a hiring decision at all.
- diminoten 8y ago
  I think you're stark raving mad if you believe the left is responsible for the hatred going on in the world right now, but it's honestly not important where it's coming from so much as the fact that it's very hard to start a new social media website right now, because you're immediately hit with questions about where you stand on free speech, in a way that Reddit and Twitter (and others) never had to deal with. Every new social media company is basically planting their flag very far in one direction or another (either blocking hate speech or leaning in entirely).
  - sparkie 8y ago
    The left are creating divisions that don't exist anymore. That were solved decades ago. It has gone from "equality for all" to "more equality to those who didn't have the same equality in the past." It is complete lunacy. The best thing for people to do is reject both this idiocy, and the idiocy of the far-right which wants to revert things back to the old way. This is what the people in the IDW are aiming to achieve - to bring people back to having discourse rather than bickering and widening the polarisation. We have racists and sexists on both the left and right. We need to denounce racism and sexism in all of their forms, else the problem is only going to increase