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You're very confused about the spectrum of possible political positions that opposing misogyny and racism makes someone a "leftist".

hiddenSU 8y ago
These platforms enforce their own definition of "racism". Openly calling for white-genocide is okay. "Misogyny" is punished, while hatred towards masculinity is supported. The "left" doesn't actually oppose these ideas as long as they're the ones espousing it. They engage, likely at a larger scale, in identity politics and exclusionary behavior. If you want evidence, look at how nearly all conservative or right-leaning comments on a platform like HN are from newly created (dummy?) accounts.
- unknownkadath 8y ago
  "Openly calling for white-genocide..." [Citation needed]
  - hiddenSU 8y ago
    https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/974962070574813184 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/97496207057481318... https://twitter.com/JohnWil60163557/status/1074582217316335617 https://twitter.com/JohnWil60163557/status/10745822173163356... https://twitter.com/TBPlaneswalker/status/1074840841498193921 https://twitter.com/TBPlaneswalker/status/107484084149819392... https://twitter.com/blodmai/status/1074709574307995648 https://twitter.com/blodmai/status/1074709574307995648 Racism towards whites: https://twitter.com/thatniggakay/status/1074910792145747968 https://twitter.com/thatniggakay/status/1074910792145747968 https://twitter.com/ajhiaa/status/1075044999530729472 https://twitter.com/ajhiaa/status/1075044999530729472 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/176659300238897153?s=21 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/17665930023889715... took me a few minutes to find these...
    - 49531 8y ago
      These are great examples if you have no understanding of power structures. Individual humans are problematic by their nature. They're sexist, racist, and all other kinds of "ists", and black nationalism is just as dumb as white nationalism. Racist tweets aren't genocide, and I would go as far to say that racially motivated murder by individuals isn't genocide. Genocide is systematic. There's a difference between an individual racist (or even group of racists) committing a murder, and the systematic erasure of a group.
      - sparkie 8y ago
        You have no clue what is happening in SA right now, and how it will end up if the far-left keep providing a platform for this kind of racist vitriol against whites.
        pluma 8y ago
        Last I checked the murders of farmers in SA have little to do with skin color and even white victims have come out to clarify that. But of course focusing on the white victims is more interesting when your audience is mostly white, especially if you already promote the idea of there being an ongoing "white genocide" through interracial relationships (because racial purity somehow is still supposedly a thing in the age of Ancestry dot com).
  - cheeseomlit 8y ago
    Sarah Jeong's tweets, for instance
- 49531 8y ago
  Because the things youre commenting have little to no connection to the real world. White genocide? My dude that's literally neo-nazi propaganda.
- sctb 8y ago
  > Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. Please don't create throwaways to start flamewars. Users that do this repeatedly get their main account banned. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

hiddenSU 8y ago

These platforms enforce their own definition of "racism". Openly calling for white-genocide is okay. "Misogyny" is punished, while hatred towards masculinity is supported. The "left" doesn't actually oppose these ideas as long as they're the ones espousing it. They engage, likely at a larger scale, in identity politics and exclusionary behavior. If you want evidence, look at how nearly all conservative or right-leaning comments on a platform like HN are from newly created (dummy?) accounts.

unknownkadath 8y ago
"Openly calling for white-genocide..." [Citation needed]
- hiddenSU 8y ago
  https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/974962070574813184 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/97496207057481318... https://twitter.com/JohnWil60163557/status/1074582217316335617 https://twitter.com/JohnWil60163557/status/10745822173163356... https://twitter.com/TBPlaneswalker/status/1074840841498193921 https://twitter.com/TBPlaneswalker/status/107484084149819392... https://twitter.com/blodmai/status/1074709574307995648 https://twitter.com/blodmai/status/1074709574307995648 Racism towards whites: https://twitter.com/thatniggakay/status/1074910792145747968 https://twitter.com/thatniggakay/status/1074910792145747968 https://twitter.com/ajhiaa/status/1075044999530729472 https://twitter.com/ajhiaa/status/1075044999530729472 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/176659300238897153?s=21 https://twitter.com/julius_s_malema/status/17665930023889715... took me a few minutes to find these...
  - 49531 8y ago
    These are great examples if you have no understanding of power structures. Individual humans are problematic by their nature. They're sexist, racist, and all other kinds of "ists", and black nationalism is just as dumb as white nationalism. Racist tweets aren't genocide, and I would go as far to say that racially motivated murder by individuals isn't genocide. Genocide is systematic. There's a difference between an individual racist (or even group of racists) committing a murder, and the systematic erasure of a group.
    - sparkie 8y ago
      You have no clue what is happening in SA right now, and how it will end up if the far-left keep providing a platform for this kind of racist vitriol against whites.
      - pluma 8y ago
        Last I checked the murders of farmers in SA have little to do with skin color and even white victims have come out to clarify that. But of course focusing on the white victims is more interesting when your audience is mostly white, especially if you already promote the idea of there being an ongoing "white genocide" through interracial relationships (because racial purity somehow is still supposedly a thing in the age of Ancestry dot com).
- cheeseomlit 8y ago
  Sarah Jeong's tweets, for instance
49531 8y ago
Because the things youre commenting have little to no connection to the real world. White genocide? My dude that's literally neo-nazi propaganda.
sctb 8y ago
> Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. Please don't create throwaways to start flamewars. Users that do this repeatedly get their main account banned. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html