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Four testimonial quotes, a short fluffy video, and a sign up box? That's your launch website? You're kidding, right? Is it online only? Is it free? Forever

• elbenshira 16y ago
  Why is this bad? It's a launch website. And it worked because I signed up.
  • twymer 16y ago
    Same, and quickly realized I'll probably never return.
    • oscardelben 16y ago
      I thought about that, but given its potential for me I set it as my homepage. I'll give it a few days to see if it has money for me.
      • jessep 16y ago
        Nice. That's what I like to hear! Please let us know what you think after a few days of using it.
        • da5e 16y ago
          I think if I use it for a week I'll be hooked. Some sort of game mechanism to get people to use it for that initial crucial time frame might be helpful.
          • jessep 16y ago
            Totally :) I think a simple progress bar getting people up to, say 1000 items might do it. Any other ideas?
      • hasenj 16y ago
        But this is because you saw it on HN and it's a YC company so you want to give it a chance. Most people wouldn't care or even know what YC is.
        • eof 16y ago
          Did he say that some where else? I can honestly say I may have been more likely to open it up and check out the site because it's a YC company, but I am 'giving it a chance' because I don't have anything else that does this except scrap paper and issue queues and I liked how you can change what the root node is and the clever use of breadcrumbs.
        • oscardelben 16y ago
          That, and because it's extremely fast compared to other software. I usually tend to go with less apps, but this could be a nice addition for me. Time will tell.
• lazyronin 16y ago
  I find it's the perfect combination. Watch the 45s video, and you know everything about the product. All that's left to do is enter an email address + password and you can start using the app. Great site.
  • shasta 16y ago
    The post you're replying to contains three questions you don't know the answer to without signing up for the service.
• apu 16y ago
  If your first version is so impressive that trolls don't make fun of it, you waited too long to launch. http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html http://www.paulgraham.com/really.html
  • shasta 16y ago
    I think he was referring to the product, not the website.
    • pg 16y ago
      Sites are usually also pretty bad initially.
• derekdahmer 16y ago
  It's a simple tool that only needs a simple explanation and simple signup box. That said, a text explanation would make the process even faster. Also it would be interesting to see a usable mini-version of their hierarchical list right on the homepage that I could play around with before even putting in my email address.
• jessep 16y ago
  We'll put this stuff online and put more descriptive text. Thanks for the feedback. Conversions are really good, btw, so something's working. Regarding your specific questions: 1) "Is it online only?" You can currently edit offline and when you go back online it'll sync your changes. Don't close your browser window, though, cause it'll lose the changes. That'll be fixed soon thanks to html 5 caching. 2 & 3) "Is it free?" & "Forever?" It's going to be like Dropbox, freemium with a quota. In other words, free forever up to a certain number of lists allowed. We'll grandfather in early users.
  • thebooktocome 16y ago
    "free forever up to a certain number of lists allowed" Er, I love your product and use it, but how does that model even make sense? Couldn't I get around it by having everything in a single root list?
    • jessep 16y ago
      Oh, I guess I think of every item in WorkFlowy as a list. So I should have said, "certain number of items".