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Disappointingly, the article never even attempts to answer the question, which really has a concise answer - the Jewish lobby in the US has an incredible amount
by kyrieeschaton 8y ago
Disappointingly, the article never even attempts to answer the question, which really has a concise answer - the Jewish lobby in the US has an incredible amount of influence, and they are attempting to avoid their ethnostate being South Africa'd. Astonishingly, the word "Jewish" never even appears in the article.
- Armisael16 8y agoThe majority of American Jews are pro-two state (https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-comparative-surveys-of-israeli-us-jews-show-some-serious-divisions https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-comparative-surveys-of-israeli-...). The pro-Israel lobby is mostly christians.
- kyrieeschaton 8y agoThe first claim has nothing to do with anything I said. The second is false; organizations like AIPAC and the ADL have by far the greatest influence on US Israeli policy and fighting BDS in particular, and are overwhelmingly Jewish dominated. This was thoroughly documented by Mearsheimer and Walt more than a decade ago, and it's not like their influence has waned.
- Armisael16 8y agoMearsheimer and Walt disagree with you: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/books/review/Letters-t-1.html?ref=review https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/books/review/Letters-t-1....
- kyrieeschaton 8y agoNo, Mearsheimer and Walt are very careful to not use particular words. They choose to not use "Jewish lobby", with the fig leaf that at least some Christian Zionists are on the same page and not literally every Jew is, despite the objective content of their book supporting the contention that Jewish organizations are both the most prominent and have the core agenda-setting function.
- metacritic12 8y agoJews are only 1.4% of the USA. If the Jewish lobby worked by influencing the votes of their own believers, they'd never get any laws passed. Instead by co-opting the political right, including many Christian fundamentalists open to the biblical appeal of Jews vs Muslims, the lobby can get the votes they need to pass these laws.
- pavel_lishin 8y ago> they are attempting to avoid their ethnostate being South Africa'd What does being "South Africa'd" mean?
- kyrieeschaton 8y agoBoycotted, divested from, and sanctioned until the regime collapses.
- wallace_f 8y agoSpeaking of sanctions, despite this being a civil rights issue, HN just dropped the hammer and removed this submission from the front page (cant be found on 2nd, 3rd, 4th pages either). My comment simply linking to the ACLU was also nuked.