3 ms·

I'm not your son. That you've found an explanation to convince a child to stop asking questions isn't exactly relevant to me.

by Retra 8y ago

acct1771 8y ago
The scientifically documented efficacy of the placebo effect is, however.
- jimnotgym 8y ago
  Exactly, and my son was smart enough to recognise that it may just be a placebo, but with an amazing easy-going attitude was happy to see if this placebo worked on him.
  - Retra 8y ago
    And next time your son has a headache, you'll give him the sea-band. The placebo effect is a miracle cure that treats all kinds of things, right?
    - jimnotgym 8y ago
      Yes, indeed I note that often in drug trials they hand out the placebo with the instructions "this is the drug to treat a different condition to the one you have"
- Retra 8y ago
  Placebo has never worked for me. So as someone who gets sea-sick, it's pretty damn important to me that a product which intends to operate based on the placebo effect be identified as such. Not everybody is healed by lies, after all.
  - JoeAltmaier 8y ago
    How can we tell if we've been helped by a placebo?
    - Retra 8y ago
      You just say "I feel better" if any scientists or doctors ask you if anything changed. You'll be a placebo-effect supporting data point in no time.
      - JoeAltmaier 8y ago
        I meant, how can we say 'they don't help me'? We may already be taking them.
        Retra 8y ago
        If you're taking them and the symptoms don't go away, then obviously they don't work. I don't understand why that's a question?
        JoeAltmaier 8y ago
        ...because we may be prescribed what's essentially a placebo and it seems to work and we don't know that it was a placebo. The claim that 'placebos don't work on me' seems like a hard claim to verify.
        jimnotgym 8y ago
        Also taking the line that "Nothing works on me unless I understand the mechanism" is kind of obtuse, considering that the article we are commenting on is about a device that relieves motion sickness, where even the inventor doesn't make any claims to know the mechanism by which they relieve the sickness. This may be the placebo effect, of course.
        Retra 8y ago

I'm not your son. That you've found an explanation to convince a child to stop asking questions isn't exactly relevant to me.

by Retra 8y ago

I'm not your son. That you've found an explanation to convince a child to stop asking questions isn't exactly relevant to me.

acct1771 8y ago

The scientifically documented efficacy of the placebo effect is, however.

jimnotgym 8y ago
Exactly, and my son was smart enough to recognise that it may just be a placebo, but with an amazing easy-going attitude was happy to see if this placebo worked on him.
- Retra 8y ago
  And next time your son has a headache, you'll give him the sea-band. The placebo effect is a miracle cure that treats all kinds of things, right?
  - jimnotgym 8y ago
    Yes, indeed I note that often in drug trials they hand out the placebo with the instructions "this is the drug to treat a different condition to the one you have"
Retra 8y ago
Placebo has never worked for me. So as someone who gets sea-sick, it's pretty damn important to me that a product which intends to operate based on the placebo effect be identified as such. Not everybody is healed by lies, after all.
- JoeAltmaier 8y ago
  How can we tell if we've been helped by a placebo?
  - Retra 8y ago
    You just say "I feel better" if any scientists or doctors ask you if anything changed. You'll be a placebo-effect supporting data point in no time.
    - JoeAltmaier 8y ago
      I meant, how can we say 'they don't help me'? We may already be taking them.
      - Retra 8y ago
        If you're taking them and the symptoms don't go away, then obviously they don't work. I don't understand why that's a question?
        JoeAltmaier 8y ago
        ...because we may be prescribed what's essentially a placebo and it seems to work and we don't know that it was a placebo. The claim that 'placebos don't work on me' seems like a hard claim to verify.
        jimnotgym 8y ago
        Also taking the line that "Nothing works on me unless I understand the mechanism" is kind of obtuse, considering that the article we are commenting on is about a device that relieves motion sickness, where even the inventor doesn't make any claims to know the mechanism by which they relieve the sickness. This may be the placebo effect, of course.
        Retra 8y ago