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On the contrary, the municipal government very loudly believed that it would have been possible. Unfortunately it appears that, for some reason I don't understa

On the contrary, the municipal government very loudly believed that it would have been possible. Unfortunately it appears that, for some reason I don't understand, New York City's Council doesn't have any input into those sort of incentive programs.

bilbo0s 8y ago
Yep. The State officials can run roughshod over you whenever they like. We just need a nation wide system where politicians can make these Foxconn type deals, but the deals would be null and void until voters actually signaled approval in some kind of referendum.
- Kalium 8y ago
  As someone living in California, my advice is to be very cautious about how much direct democracy you ask for. It can very easily go very badly.
  - ericd 8y ago
    This doesn't deserve downvotes. Some of the products of the referendums (prop 13, for example) have had disastrous long term consequences.
    - FreakyT 8y ago
      And let's not forget everyone's favorite: > This [literally any object imaginable] contains materials known to the State of California to cause cancer.
      - ericd 8y ago
        Oh yeah, that one's great. My two favorite uses of this sign - first, on the jetway, when you're stuck in line, and second, in the baby food aisle at our local grocery store. I guess you could think of it like a memento mori, though: "Everything is killing you, slowly".
  - eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
    Colorado is another state where the ballot initiatives are getting out of hand. Very conflicted because there are some decisions I believe should go directly to the people. My ballot this year was pages long. Took me over half an hour to fill it all out. The wording on some of the initiatives are so confusing you have to read them numerous times to decipher.
- peteretep 8y ago
  > until voters actually signaled approval in some kind of referendum Worked so well with Brexit
bobthepanda 8y ago
For historical reasons, the State and City have never gotten along well. If you read the State constitution, you will see a lot of (now unconstitutional) clauses that target the City in all but name only. The state has arcane mechanisms to override city home rule because home rule is generously interpreted by state courts to mean nothing at all. I think the most surprising thing is that Bill De Blasio agreed to this at all, but he can't politick his way out of a paper bag.

bilbo0s 8y ago

Yep. The State officials can run roughshod over you whenever they like. We just need a nation wide system where politicians can make these Foxconn type deals, but the deals would be null and void until voters actually signaled approval in some kind of referendum.

Kalium 8y ago
As someone living in California, my advice is to be very cautious about how much direct democracy you ask for. It can very easily go very badly.
- ericd 8y ago
  This doesn't deserve downvotes. Some of the products of the referendums (prop 13, for example) have had disastrous long term consequences.
  - FreakyT 8y ago
    And let's not forget everyone's favorite: > This [literally any object imaginable] contains materials known to the State of California to cause cancer.
    - ericd 8y ago
      Oh yeah, that one's great. My two favorite uses of this sign - first, on the jetway, when you're stuck in line, and second, in the baby food aisle at our local grocery store. I guess you could think of it like a memento mori, though: "Everything is killing you, slowly".
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
  Colorado is another state where the ballot initiatives are getting out of hand. Very conflicted because there are some decisions I believe should go directly to the people. My ballot this year was pages long. Took me over half an hour to fill it all out. The wording on some of the initiatives are so confusing you have to read them numerous times to decipher.
peteretep 8y ago
> until voters actually signaled approval in some kind of referendum Worked so well with Brexit

bobthepanda 8y ago

For historical reasons, the State and City have never gotten along well. If you read the State constitution, you will see a lot of (now unconstitutional) clauses that target the City in all but name only. The state has arcane mechanisms to override city home rule because home rule is generously interpreted by state courts to mean nothing at all. I think the most surprising thing is that Bill De Blasio agreed to this at all, but he can't politick his way out of a paper bag.