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"ads injected" is false, we don't do anything without user and (if involved; our main opt-in model is user-private ads not in publisher slots) publisher consent

"ads injected" is false, we don't do anything without user and (if involved; our main opt-in model is user-private ads not in publisher slots) publisher consent. Mozilla itself says, and I say, that "half the board" did not resign over me. See https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignat..., and also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10654651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10654651 for a detailed breakdown from me based on what I can say that others involved also said. Mozilla (same FAQ link) testifies that I was not "ejected" and was welcome to stay at an unspecified C-level executive position. If you don't believe them, I can't help you. On "divisive", beware false division and fake cover stories or excuses. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898

StudentStuff 8y ago
The state of how you are viewed makes me want nothing to do with you, regardless of Mozilla's invitation to retain you and put you in a corner at the C level.
- BrendanEich 8y ago
  Are you holding that against Mozilla too? In my experience it is best to avoid following one's filter bubble on "how someone is viewed", especially in today's tribal regressive-left world. But YMMV!
  - StudentStuff 8y ago
    Nope, just like how I don't hold what Jake Appelbaum may or may have not done against the Tor Project. I know we (the general public) will likely never have a good grasp of what happened inside Mozilla or the Tor Project when either of these events occurred. Nice pot shot with the tribal regressive-left bit btw. Sadly inaccurate though.
    - BrendanEich 8y ago
      The truly cheap shot here is lumping me in with the utterly unrelated case of Jake Appelbaum, who has had many accusations against him, while I have had zero. False equivalence piled on false claims looks like malice, so no point in arguing.
      - StudentStuff 8y ago
        Not saying you have accusations of sexual misconduct against you, but you definitely angered the 3 board members that quit over your appointment as CEO, and upset many Mozilla employees. Some discussions happened internally, we don't have the full story, and I won't be using your products due to the murky situation at Mozilla & your past support of certain political causes.
        BrendanEich 8y ago
        For onlookers and ftr: Mozilla FAQ includes answer on whether board quit because they were "angered" and says nope: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignat.... For more back-story, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898.

StudentStuff 8y ago

The state of how you are viewed makes me want nothing to do with you, regardless of Mozilla's invitation to retain you and put you in a corner at the C level.

BrendanEich 8y ago
Are you holding that against Mozilla too? In my experience it is best to avoid following one's filter bubble on "how someone is viewed", especially in today's tribal regressive-left world. But YMMV!
- StudentStuff 8y ago
  Nope, just like how I don't hold what Jake Appelbaum may or may have not done against the Tor Project. I know we (the general public) will likely never have a good grasp of what happened inside Mozilla or the Tor Project when either of these events occurred. Nice pot shot with the tribal regressive-left bit btw. Sadly inaccurate though.
  - BrendanEich 8y ago
    The truly cheap shot here is lumping me in with the utterly unrelated case of Jake Appelbaum, who has had many accusations against him, while I have had zero. False equivalence piled on false claims looks like malice, so no point in arguing.
    - StudentStuff 8y ago
      Not saying you have accusations of sexual misconduct against you, but you definitely angered the 3 board members that quit over your appointment as CEO, and upset many Mozilla employees. Some discussions happened internally, we don't have the full story, and I won't be using your products due to the murky situation at Mozilla & your past support of certain political causes.
      - BrendanEich 8y ago
        For onlookers and ftr: Mozilla FAQ includes answer on whether board quit because they were "angered" and says nope: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignat.... For more back-story, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13429898.