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Because the alternative is ultimately "Everyone probably won't get to stay alive". Which is a pretty big change in one's way of life. Also, using cans instead
by CalRobert 8y ago
Because the alternative is ultimately "Everyone probably won't get to stay alive". Which is a pretty big change in one's way of life.
Also, using cans instead of bottles isn't exactly a major shift in most people's life. It's infinitely recyclable (unlike plastic), something nature knows how to deal with (unlike plastic) and often better for the beverage (in the case of beer at the very least).
- Eridrus 8y agoIf you had read the OP I was replying to, you would see they were suggesting everyone should buy and carry a Nalgene water bottle with them at all times, in case they needed water. If you read further down this thread, many commenters in this thread are convinced that we should never package water.
- jogjayr 8y ago"Never" is a strong word. Packaged water is useful when stockpiling for or responding to natural disasters (hurricanes, wildfire, tornadoes, earthquakes), emergency evacuation camps, places where safe, clean water and filters aren't easily accessible or used. Everywhere else, it's really unnecessary.
- biggusdickus 8y agoCans' inside is lined with plastic.
- dmm 8y agoThe alternative is the government intervening to internalize externalities. For example, a revenue neutral carbon tax or deposits on food/drink containers.
- CalRobert 8y agoThis is actually a better approach. But it's extremely hard politically. If we did this gas would be 12-20 USD a gallon, and we'd have a better world.
- jki275 8y agoEasy to say from an ivory tower, but in the real world people have to get to work every day.
- CalRobert 8y agoWhich is why I realize it's a political nonstarter. I think we're in agreement.
- jki275 8y agoYeah -- in an ideal world everyone could afford to live near where they worked.
- CalRobert 8y agoOne way to encourage just that sort of city planning is, in fact, to price externalities appropriately. It's not actually cheaper to build and live in sprawl, it's fantastically expensive. But we don't charge those costs based on usage.
- jki275 8y agoI can spend 400k to buy a nice four bedroom house with a garage and a basement on half an acre sixty miles from work, or 400k to buy a beat down 1 bedroom condo ten miles from work (nothing near the area where I work is under 900k)... That's not really a city planning issue, it's just the way things are in hyper-urban areas. I hope so much that I can pull off a remote job in the next year or so -- believe me, I'd rather never drive if I could.
- the_watcher 8y agoAh, the answer I was looking for when I posted! I've long preferred cans (they seem to get and stay colder to me, although that may not be true), but wasn't sure about the environmental impact.
- dhimes 8y agoI refer to beverage cans as "micro kegs."