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The behaviour that your co-workers claim Google engaged in sounds pretty exactly like the AMD-Intel antitrust case where AMD alleged that Intel's C compiler was
by XCabbage 8y ago
The behaviour that your co-workers claim Google engaged in sounds pretty exactly like the AMD-Intel antitrust case where AMD alleged that Intel's C compiler was deliberately crippling performance on AMD processors to help Intel's processors compete. If true, Microsoft should sue Google over it - not just out of raw corporate self-interest, but because this sort of conduct is evil and should be stamped out.
If this case hasn't already been run up to Microsoft's lawyers, start running it up to them. You'll be doing the world a service.
- eganist 8y agoFascinating. I wonder what the counter-argument would be; that a website isn't software, perhaps? That argument could be sufficiently argued apart by equating manually downloaded/installed software with code that's manually downloaded (GET / host: youtube.com) and run in a browser context. I'd be curious to see how likely Microsoft would be to follow this approach rather than to just stick to using Blink... as they've already decided to do.
- bonesss 8y agoThe counter arguments are a) broken rendering in your browser does not dictate how my websites have to be, and b) since when is Google a monopoly on standardized HTML web video? Google could start responding to YouTube requests with binary streams of gibberish if they want, MS would only have standing to sue as a content creator and advertiser on YouTube. If Google is reverse engineering other browsers optimization paths and putting out content that is disagreeable to that optimization, that's possibly unfortunate but not illegal.
- eganist 8y agoa) A broken reference C compiler don't dictate how a different C compiler might act -- in reference to the case which Intel lost. b) since Google's browser became the defacto standard browser thanks to Edge switching engines, hence the thread. The standard doesn't really matter anymore; Google makes most of them now as a matter of course anyway.
- ksec 8y agoWhat will Microsoft gain if they Win? Nothing. Google has the upper hand in public image. Microsoft is still evil outside of Dev Circles. And IE did some ass moves as well in IE6 era, think about the PR mess this would lead. It is not the best time to strike now, once the timing is right, I am sure they will.
- pjmlp 8y agoI wonder whose circles are those, most non-technical people I know doesn't care less about evil, good or whatever.
- XCabbage 8y ago> "What will Microsoft gain if they Win?" Uh, money? It might not exactly be a noble incentive for a lawsuit, but it's sure as hell an incentive, isn't it?
- sangnoir 8y agoI wonder what sort of information Google might dredge up during discovery that Microsoft wouldn't want to see the light of day. I'm no lawyer/accountant, so I don't know what amount of money would be worth that risk. With a lot of legal issues, sometimes the only winning move is not to play.
- gpshead 8y agohiybbprqag for one - https://www.wired.com/2011/02/bing-copies-google/ https://www.wired.com/2011/02/bing-copies-google/
- phoenix616 8y agoI mean google was recently caught doing the same thing with baidu... https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/google-china-censored-search-engine-2/ https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/google-china-censored-se...
- Faark 8y ago
- shevegen 8y agoYour comment is only good in theory. In practice, Google won the browser wars and can dictate whatever they want to. Microsoft got tired and the market segment was already extremely small, so there was not much to gain from fighting Google. It's unfortunate because now we are all stuck with Google. AMP is the next step of dominance for Google.