> it wants all the engagement This. From my user perspective, a good website is one that gives me the information that I need, when I need it, in minimum neces

> it wants all the engagement This. From my user perspective, a good website is one that gives me the information that I need, when I need it, in minimum necessary time. From ad-driven websites's perspective, a good user is one that visits the website as often as possible, and stays as long as possible; also provides all kinds of personal data (in ideal case, also on other people). Problem is, even if I turn off the ads, I cannot turn off the design decisions that were influenced by the ads. Such as, pages trying to make you click on more pages, long descriptions where a short one would do, multiple articles containing essentially the same information, articles with partial information (which don't get updated, because a new article gets written instead), etc.