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You're right about that, but AMP'ed pages not coming from Google's cache are already really fast. Actually they're only preloading those pages while you're on t
by dep_b 8y ago
You're right about that, but AMP'ed pages not coming from Google's cache are already really fast. Actually they're only preloading those pages while you're on the results page, which is something they could do as a reward for all pages that have a reduced page weight.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoIt is not safe to preload arbitrary web pages. The user will be deanonymized to a site they never visited. It is safe to preload AMP pages by design.
- manigandham 8y agoAnd yet now you never leave Google's servers when browsing. They know your entire path from search to site and back again.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoGoogle would have known you clicked on the link anyway. You would prefer the publishers and ad networks track users on pages they never even visit?
- manigandham 8y agoAMP pages mean Google has 1st party access to your browser no matter what you browse, which is far more than normal. I didn't state any preferences, and how would sites track you on pages you don't visit?
- lern_too_spel 8y ago> how would sites track you on pages you don't visit? As I stated in GGGP, the benefit of AMP is that it allows a user to safely preload pages.
- manigandham 8y agoBecause you never leave Google's domain, thereby allowing it track you far more. Preloading is a minor detail considering how much privacy is removed.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoGoogle already scraped the page to show the snippet, so they know what you're looking at. Whatever the privacy loss might be, people are happy to make that tradeoff with Facebook Instant Articles and Apple News. Similarly, they're happy to make that tradeoff on the web, which explains why AMP is used by so many search engines and link aggregators, not just Google.
- manigandham 8y agoPeople have no choice in the matter. Facebook and Google trade higher visibility for publishers that participate, in exchange for the same data tracking capabilities and limitations in 3rd-party ad networks from making money. Apple News is entirely different and more comparable to using any other news app (like Flipboard) or an RSS reader rather than a website.
- Tsubasachan 8y agoPeople is so nebulous. I am people and I don't make that tradeoff.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoTell me what privacy you think you're losing. Then avoid clicking on AMP results.
- jefftk 8y ago> something they could do as a reward for all pages that have a reduced page weight This would leak information to sites that came up in your search results but you didn't visit. Webpackages should make it be possible to safely prerender sites without AMP though: https://wicg.github.io/webpackage/draft-yasskin-webpackage-use-cases.html https://wicg.github.io/webpackage/draft-yasskin-webpackage-u... (Disclosure: I work at Google, on making ads AMP so they don't get to run arbitrary JS anymore)