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> I don't get the hate the Minecraft gets now What "hate"? The author describes his son showing signs of addiction, and ends up laughing it off.

winchling 8y ago
Boys have always been heavily into things. The intellectual history of every genius is a series of obsessions.
- RodericDay 8y ago
  > Boys Thankfully girls, poor smooth-brained things that they are, don't have to deal with the issue of passion, or genius, right?
  - jm547ster 8y ago
    I can see how you’re jumping to conclusions but I’m sure the original comment is a reference the widely acknowledged fact that women are more inclined to be interested in people rather than things.
    - RodericDay 8y ago
      "widely acknowledged" things can and often are very wrong and doubling down on said wrongness reinforces it I see how you subtly try to squirrel your opinion that women have certain biological inclinations towards modern social behaviors as a "fact", in phrenological style, but that's actually exactly what is being criticized here
  - unixhero 8y ago
    0 of the girls at my school were into technology there must be something to it.
- PavlovsCat 8y ago
  > Boys have always been heavily into things. As opposed to girls, really? Or are boys just more at risk of being very lightly tethered socially, or not grounded at all? I played Ambermoon not just before school, but before breakfast, for months until I had completed it -- nothing got me out of bed like that game. But still, I just now went through the list of these 10 items again, and I honestly don't see my younger self in that, at all. Maybe I'm in denial, but I can't even think of social things I let go because of that, it was the other way around, I lost interest for a while during puberty, then my interest was re-kindled as I got bored of partying. If I wasn't spending so much time at computers, I would just be reading more, I'm pretty sure. > The intellectual history of every genius is a series of obsessions. Is that really true? Isn't that just calling doing things and having interests obsessions? I think Hannah Arendt was a genius for example, I'm not seeing the obsession though. Every addiction can be called an obsession, but not every addiction an obsession.
  - nuguy 8y ago
    Your bio is the most cringe inducing thing I have ever seen.
    - PavlovsCat 8y ago
      Yeah well, and I vouched for your comment just to tell you that all you're saying with that is that you didn't like my comment, but have got nothing concrete to criticize, and didn't like the quotes in my bio either, but have nothing concrete there either. It's off-topic alright, but you're obviously offended, and obviously dreaming when you think you could offend me.
    - sctb 8y ago
      Even in a terrible thread, personal attacks have no business on Hacker News. You've been breaking the guidelines a whole lot, so we have to ask you to please re-read them and comment only civilly and substantively. We ban accounts that won't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 8y ago
  Please keep gender flamebait, and other flamebait, off HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - winchling 8y ago
    Sure. For the record, I didn't intend to provoke this unpleasantness and please note that my comment wasn't downvoted into oblivion. I'll be more wary in the future...
    - dang 8y ago
      Flamebait routinely gets upvoted. That's one of the weaknesses of the voting system, and part of why a site like this needs moderation. It can't live by upvotes alone.
      - winchling 8y ago
        OK.
PhasmaFelis 8y ago
There's a lot of people who despise it because it's popular. Same thing with Fortnite, actually.
- PavlovsCat 8y ago
  Sure, but how does that apply here? Someone reports a less than perfect experience with it, and that casually gets connected to "haters that exist". Are you sure people despise things for being popular, that they don't just react to popular things more often and more strongly because popularity means you encounter them more often? On the other hand, popularity does sadly imply a certain amount of identifying with and irrationally defending of something, which ironically adds to the hateworthyness of it. Not because it's to blame for the people who like it, but because it comes with the people who like it and their dividing of everything into fans or haters.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    I didn't read Cubbic as calling the author a "hater". They were just observing that a lot of Minecraft hate exists. If you hate a game and dismiss everyone who plays it just because some of its fans are annoying, you are being just as irrational and identity-obsessed as the fans that piss you off. And, yes, I've seen that happen a lot.
    - PavlovsCat 8y ago
      So it doesn't apply here. But the "unrelated positive anecdote" and "unrelated observation 'Minecraft hate' exists" (without any indication what they mean with that, your guess is as good as mine) both are in "response" to this article.
  - marpstar 8y ago
    My 8 year old hates Fortnite because that's the only game YouTubers want to talk about anymore. He, too, is obsessed with Minecraft and the number of videos out in recent months has definitely dwindled.

winchling 8y ago

Boys have always been heavily into things. The intellectual history of every genius is a series of obsessions.

RodericDay 8y ago
> Boys Thankfully girls, poor smooth-brained things that they are, don't have to deal with the issue of passion, or genius, right?
- jm547ster 8y ago
  I can see how you’re jumping to conclusions but I’m sure the original comment is a reference the widely acknowledged fact that women are more inclined to be interested in people rather than things.
  - RodericDay 8y ago
    "widely acknowledged" things can and often are very wrong and doubling down on said wrongness reinforces it I see how you subtly try to squirrel your opinion that women have certain biological inclinations towards modern social behaviors as a "fact", in phrenological style, but that's actually exactly what is being criticized here
- unixhero 8y ago
  0 of the girls at my school were into technology there must be something to it.
PavlovsCat 8y ago
> Boys have always been heavily into things. As opposed to girls, really? Or are boys just more at risk of being very lightly tethered socially, or not grounded at all? I played Ambermoon not just before school, but before breakfast, for months until I had completed it -- nothing got me out of bed like that game. But still, I just now went through the list of these 10 items again, and I honestly don't see my younger self in that, at all. Maybe I'm in denial, but I can't even think of social things I let go because of that, it was the other way around, I lost interest for a while during puberty, then my interest was re-kindled as I got bored of partying. If I wasn't spending so much time at computers, I would just be reading more, I'm pretty sure. > The intellectual history of every genius is a series of obsessions. Is that really true? Isn't that just calling doing things and having interests obsessions? I think Hannah Arendt was a genius for example, I'm not seeing the obsession though. Every addiction can be called an obsession, but not every addiction an obsession.
- nuguy 8y ago
  Your bio is the most cringe inducing thing I have ever seen.
  - PavlovsCat 8y ago
    Yeah well, and I vouched for your comment just to tell you that all you're saying with that is that you didn't like my comment, but have got nothing concrete to criticize, and didn't like the quotes in my bio either, but have nothing concrete there either. It's off-topic alright, but you're obviously offended, and obviously dreaming when you think you could offend me.
  - sctb 8y ago
    Even in a terrible thread, personal attacks have no business on Hacker News. You've been breaking the guidelines a whole lot, so we have to ask you to please re-read them and comment only civilly and substantively. We ban accounts that won't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 8y ago
Please keep gender flamebait, and other flamebait, off HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- winchling 8y ago
  Sure. For the record, I didn't intend to provoke this unpleasantness and please note that my comment wasn't downvoted into oblivion. I'll be more wary in the future...
  - dang 8y ago
    Flamebait routinely gets upvoted. That's one of the weaknesses of the voting system, and part of why a site like this needs moderation. It can't live by upvotes alone.
    - winchling 8y ago
      OK.

PhasmaFelis 8y ago

There's a lot of people who despise it because it's popular. Same thing with Fortnite, actually.

PavlovsCat 8y ago
Sure, but how does that apply here? Someone reports a less than perfect experience with it, and that casually gets connected to "haters that exist". Are you sure people despise things for being popular, that they don't just react to popular things more often and more strongly because popularity means you encounter them more often? On the other hand, popularity does sadly imply a certain amount of identifying with and irrationally defending of something, which ironically adds to the hateworthyness of it. Not because it's to blame for the people who like it, but because it comes with the people who like it and their dividing of everything into fans or haters.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  I didn't read Cubbic as calling the author a "hater". They were just observing that a lot of Minecraft hate exists. If you hate a game and dismiss everyone who plays it just because some of its fans are annoying, you are being just as irrational and identity-obsessed as the fans that piss you off. And, yes, I've seen that happen a lot.
  - PavlovsCat 8y ago
    So it doesn't apply here. But the "unrelated positive anecdote" and "unrelated observation 'Minecraft hate' exists" (without any indication what they mean with that, your guess is as good as mine) both are in "response" to this article.
- marpstar 8y ago
  My 8 year old hates Fortnite because that's the only game YouTubers want to talk about anymore. He, too, is obsessed with Minecraft and the number of videos out in recent months has definitely dwindled.