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While this study did find a correlation (unsurprisingly) between depression and childhood trauma. It also found that 1 in 4 sufferers had experienced none at al

by mthoms 8y ago

While this study did find a correlation (unsurprisingly) between depression and childhood trauma. It also found that 1 in 4 sufferers had experienced none at all. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677006/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677006/ Are you suggesting a staggering 25% of depression sufferers have repressed memories? If so, I'd like to point out that there is no scientific consensus that it even exists: From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repressed_memory#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repressed_memory#Criticism : The existence of repressed memory recovery has not been accepted by mainstream psychology, nor unequivocally proven to exist, and some experts in the field of human memory feel that no credible scientific support exists for the notions of repressed/recovered memories

intralizee 8y ago
I'm not sure how the best way is to respond. Even if the critique suggests "the memories may be false or distorted" the essence still holds properties in how the person has been modified by it. I would still consider the person suffering from trauma associated to it. Trauma from misinterpretation is just as real in comparison to trauma from an event that did in fact happen. Both may result in a person being altered negatively.
- mthoms 8y ago
  I'm not suggesting "the memories may be false or distorted" and I agree with your sentiment expressed above. What I'm saying is that your theory - "I believe past trauma is the root cause and I doubt people have depression if they haven't had some type of experience they would classify as trauma" was proven false in the study I cited. It found that one in four depression sufferers had no childhood trauma to speak of. Your (apparent?) explanation for this - that 1 in 4 depression suffers have simply suppressed their trauma memories - has no scientific basis. It all gives the appearance that you're projecting your own personal experience without providing evidence.
  - intralizee 8y ago
    The study you referenced had the critique I wrote my reply towards. I don't consider the study proving anything false. If a person has no childhood trauma to speak of, it can be instilled in the subconscious and they're unable to process it. Psychology is built upon theories with little scientific basis of replicating the assertions. Observation is really all of psychology studies. Simply, it's difficult or even impossible to provide evidence around problems surrounding the psych by what you're asking. Nobody can assert with science to how conscience is even real.

by mthoms 8y ago

intralizee 8y ago

I'm not sure how the best way is to respond. Even if the critique suggests "the memories may be false or distorted" the essence still holds properties in how the person has been modified by it. I would still consider the person suffering from trauma associated to it. Trauma from misinterpretation is just as real in comparison to trauma from an event that did in fact happen. Both may result in a person being altered negatively.

mthoms 8y ago
I'm not suggesting "the memories may be false or distorted" and I agree with your sentiment expressed above. What I'm saying is that your theory - "I believe past trauma is the root cause and I doubt people have depression if they haven't had some type of experience they would classify as trauma" was proven false in the study I cited. It found that one in four depression sufferers had no childhood trauma to speak of. Your (apparent?) explanation for this - that 1 in 4 depression suffers have simply suppressed their trauma memories - has no scientific basis. It all gives the appearance that you're projecting your own personal experience without providing evidence.
- intralizee 8y ago
  The study you referenced had the critique I wrote my reply towards. I don't consider the study proving anything false. If a person has no childhood trauma to speak of, it can be instilled in the subconscious and they're unable to process it. Psychology is built upon theories with little scientific basis of replicating the assertions. Observation is really all of psychology studies. Simply, it's difficult or even impossible to provide evidence around problems surrounding the psych by what you're asking. Nobody can assert with science to how conscience is even real.